China unveils a powerful deep-sea cable cutter that could reset the world order

It's give and take. China is smart enough to invest in its country and its people. They're making great scientific and technical advances that's on a course that will surpass the west in many areas. The individual rights and freedoms are terrible though to the point where unsanctioned creativity is punished.

The whole country is dystopian. But agree there are smart people. They are just used for doing/inventing awful stuff.
They are playing the long game and are currently the only ones benefiting from all that happens. They sit by idly watching our idiot leaders antagonise each other.
Lmao people will say this same shit about the us in 8 years when all the rights have been stripped and it’s run by tech bros
- Yes. In many ways, China is exactly what Republicans wet dream about. A single party runs unopposed controlling all elements of government. Criticizing them is illegal. All businesses are protected by the government from uppity customers. Employees are expected to work 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. 6 days a week for few benefits with almost no workers rights..
  It's the Republican dream.
  
  You know as much about china as dolphins do about integrated circuits.

they're also experimenting with dogfighting satellites

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/21/china/china-space-force-dogfighting-satellites-intl-hnk/index.html

That country fucking sucks major ass. Space lasers when?
- We literally have starlink and the US run by fascists with nukes. I don't mind seeing other countries that they threaten ready to combat their information systems.
  
  Yeah, but that’s only as long as they target the US with their bullshit. Dictatorships don’t exactly have a history of stopping after „defeating“ their enemy. They’ll find new ones (spoiler it’s gonna be Europe).
  
  Is this like how they targeted African countries economies with the Belt and Road Initiative?
  
  Idk. That at least has some mild benefits for the countries. In the form of investions and infrastructure.
  Cutting cables is just an act of war if you ask me.
  
  Dictatorships don’t exactly have a history of stopping after „defeating“ their enemy. They’ll find new ones
  Fr dawg.
  Also, I don't really want to have to learn Mandarin, nom sayin'?
  I'm firmly in middle age and don't have the mental capacity to memorize 30,000 Chinese characters or whatever the count is.
  
  You don’t have the mental capacity to learn mandarin? lol that’s pretty nicely worded. I simply don’t have the fucks and would rather die than learn that language. I had enough trouble with French. And they use „normal“ letters.
  
  Nothing about france can be called normal even with quotation marks.
- no it doesn't, you racist.
  xi is a harmful influence.
  china is more than its politics.
  
  china is its politics. its culture has been majorly reshaped by their dystopian shit. Basically no one there questions their surveillance, what's more, they ridicule those who oppose it
  
  "china is its politics."
  Absurdly ignorant.
  You think a 3000 year old country as large as the US with 1.4 billion people is defined by the recent political actions of a single leader who seized power a decade ago?
  You are perceptually limited here, not the Chinese people and their culture.
  You are woefully ignorant of both what "china" and "politics" are.
  "Basically no one there questions their surveillance"
  You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Do you have any evidence of this lack of questioning from 1.4 billion people? The protests? Articles? No? Of course you don't you're dead wrong.
  "what's more, they ridicule those who oppose it"
  Chinese people are regularly censured and go to jail for protesting against Xi policies. Go ahead and provide a shred of evidence for your ignorant claims.
  
  yes, it is racist to hate an entire country of people because of who they are.
  that is racism. here look:
  "Some deserve to be condemned. And I hate Chinese culture."
  idiotic, ignorant and absurd racism.
  "And Japanese for that matter."
  racism.
  "They are dystopian if you take a closer look."
  you are obviously ignorant about either of those countries and especially anything about their culture.
  which utopian country are you from?
  "If a country keeps a horrible leader for that many years, it also tells a lot btw"
  oh look, you're blinding ignorance.
  xi abolished term limits years ago. he is not kept in power, he seized it; Trump said he would like to do the same thing.
  "Normally you would re to get rid of said leaders."
  wildly historically inaccurate and ignorant!
  "But apparently it’s fine. "
  nope, and embarrassingly ignorant.
  
  The only racist asshole who i see in this comment is varik who use racist an as excuse when the asshole dont have more arguments
  
  Unsurprising, you are clearly coming from a limited awareness and perspective. Best of luck.
  
  dig your head deep in the sand, if you can't live without that
  
  Nobody is going to join you down there except other racists. Have fun with each other.
That seems less concerning to me after reading the article.
Russia and the US are also known to conduct proximity operations to their own and other satellites, she added.
[…]
Referring to China’s operations as “dogfighting” in space is “not helpful” because it “automatically ascribes hostile intentions to activities that frankly the US also undertakes,” Samson added.
It’s concerning that they are developing the capability (which can be used in multiple ways) in the same way that any geopolitical rival developing capacity that competes is concerning, but “dogfighting” evokes the idea that China is planning to fly around and blow stuff up, in an irresponsible, Kessler syndrome-inducing way.

china is pretty cool.

xi has been a harmful influence.

I disagree. China is a scary place with face recognition and all that shit. I wouldn’t ever travel there. If my job sent me there, I would rather quit than travel to china.
Fuck china. Also Chinese culture in general is pretty unappealing to me, who is used to a free life without all these stupid and arbitrary „rules“ like having to be married or else you’re worthless and all that crap.
Also their factories have grids in front of windows so workers can’t kill themselves by jumping out. Tells me all I need to know.
I hate the whole thing, not just the government.
But please note that I do not blanket hate all Chinese people though.
- "I disagree"
  I'mthen you're objectively wrong, as you are disagreeing with facts.
  "China is a scary place"
  like the US.
  "with face recognition and all that shit."
  like the US.
  "I wouldn’t ever travel there."
  good, they don't need your racism you would be an embarrassment.
  "If my job sent me there, I would rather quit than travel to china. "
  small favors.
  ". Also Chinese culture in general is pretty unappealing to me"
  you obviously know nothing about Chinese culture, and are obviously very racist.
  "who is used to a free life...."
  houoooo
  which "free" country are you from?
  "I hate the whole thing, not just the government.
  But please note that I do not blanket hate all Chinese people though. "
  this is going to shock you, bigot, but all Chinese people are "the whole thing" that you are insulting, despite your racist tantrum being born out of obvious ignorance.
  
  Someone is very butthurt. Probably Chinese, by chance?
  You keep saying „like the US“ as if that was an argument at all lol. Yes. Like the US. Both are authoritarian shitholes.
  
  "Someone is very butthurt. Probably Chinese, by chance?"
  nope, just smart,well-traveled and knowledgeable.
  and.... not a racist like you!
  
  I followed the thread just to see where it landed and I was not disappointed.
  And for a well travelled and knowleadgeable person, you give off a very narrow view.
  So, in one corner, we have an authoritarian regime, well established, known for violently suppressing minorities and heavilly surveill the citizens, take over territories, and constantly menace and threaten others, while thriving by manipulating money flow world wide and internally using slave work to run their industries.
  On the other, we have the exact same thing, but flag and language changes. And classical political quadrant.
  You can loathe a regime and have nothing against the people underneath it. Chinese were lead into an authoritarian regime through force, Americans were subtly led to the same through fear. The original premise: a land of freedom, for the people.
  If we can not agree both countries are, essentially, the same, then one of us is refusing to aknowledge facts, willingly.
  
  "So, in one corner, we have..." a biased collection of recent historical political actions by one man by which you are judging an entire country, its culture that has existed at least 300 times as long as that dictator, as well as a population of 1.4 billion other people.
  "On the other, we have..." a failed direct comparison that falls apart under the lightest scrutiny.
  "You can loathe a regime and have nothing against the people underneath it"
  nobody argued you can't.
  "Chinese were lead..." oh boy. rough.
  "Americans were subtly led..."
  HAhah, come on...okay. Please elucidate the subtleties of the American conservative, particularly their blunt leader.
  "The original premise: a land of freedom, for the people." This is incorrect. a "Muslim ban" was proposed.
  look at his policies. Rump is a rapist. not a subtle rapist, just a rapist.
  "f we can not agree both countries are, essentially, the same, then one of us is refusing to aknowledge facts"
  I think you are much more ignorant of the facts than refusing to acknowledge them here.
  These countries are not the same at all. All facts go against your failed comparisons here and the similarity between the two countries overall.
  In fact, you argue against your own conclusion by claiming the two recent dictators came to power differently.
  You have no cohesive point or consistency except for how contextually and factually ignorant you are regarding every point you try to make.
  
  I like how you instantly decided I was talking about China when writing that list. Shows your bias. But if you recognized it, good. Only means the similarities run deep enough for both countries to be mistaken by one another.
  Thank you for remembering China has, technically, the longest standing continuous civilization. I'm aware. But since we are focusing our attention on recent history, let's say last 70 years, I'm going to opt out the rest as not relevant for the discussion at hand.
  Shall we deny the revolution led by Mao ended in violence against his own countrymen and revolutionary allies? The decades of disastrous policies, of cultural, religious and social repression, all of those considered classical indicators of established totalitarian regimes?
  Meanwhile, across the Pacific, let's also ignore and deny the ever growing shadow power and pressure on the government by the "conservative" to hold back or cull whatever small advancements on the social front made, since the 1950's, paired with the constant recitation of the fear against communism.
  There was violence and repression on both ends of this argument, obviously; one enacted it through bullets, while the other enacted it through the pen. Different methods, same results. Fascinating how any ideology, when led to it's extremes degenerates into essentially the same outcome.
  Now, if you will allow me, I am going to preserve my critical and accusatory position towards the political establishments of China and USA, as both being authoritarian repressive dangerous regimes.
  
  "...you instantly decided I was talking about China when..."
  Yes, seeing as how you said you were commenting on a thread about China and the US, and then at the end mentioned the Chinese and the Americans by name with reference to your comments, I did come to the conclusion you were talking about China and the US.
  since you were literally talking about China and the US.
  "Thank you for remembering China has, technically, the longest standing continuous civilization."
  I did not say that and that is incorrect, but you're welcome.
  "I'm aware"
  clearly, you are not.
  "But since we are focusing our attention on recent history..."
  that is your personal myopia, do not speak for others.
  "Shall we deny the revolution led by Mao..."
  I guess you could, but I don't see the point of disagreeing with me there.
  His regime and its effects are very well documented, If you look into it at all, you're just going to prove me right.
  "let's also ignore and deny the..."
  go for it.
  you understand that your denial of basic historical facts is the reason you are so far off base here, right?
  "Fascinating how any ideology, when led to it's extremes degenerates into essentially the same outcome."
  I was waiting for your historically incorrect conclusion of magnet theory, and you finally made your way there.
  your argument that the sky and the ocean are the same thing because they're so far apart from each other is a ridiculous conclusion, but explains your thought process.
  
  You finished waving your red herrings around?
  
  I literally said that I don’t hate Chinese people, I hate the culture. That is not racist to hate „work to death“ and „be worthless unless you reach a certain social status“ etc.
  I’m sure there a nice aspects. But most of the culture seems forced and cruel. It’s all dependent on social status and that’s kinda sad. I hate that. I would hate it anywhere, not just in china. I would hate it in my country too. So how is this possibly racist? Some cultures are just worse than others.
  
  You hate the culture as a whole? Or hate just the regressive/reactionary/conservative/more traditional(to a westerner) elements of it?
  
  Dude how many exceptions you have to make for this argument to even work tells you everything you need to know.
  
  "I literally said that I don’t hate Chinese people, I hate the culture"
  hating a culture, especially when you don't know anything about except the race of the people who make that culture, is racist.
  what you actually said is:
  "That country fucking sucks ass."
  these are your new arguments:
  "That is not racist to hate „work to death“ and „be worthless unless you reach a certain social status“ etc. "
  nobody said that was racist, because you haven't said those before.
  what is racist is you not liking Chinese people and their culture for no reason other than their race.
  I am glad you are changing your position.
  "I’m sure there a nice aspects."
  there are many.
  "But most of the culture seems forced and cruel."
  this is a statement born of ignorance, you can't draw this conclusion because you obviously don't know anything about the culture.
  as seen here:
  "It’s all dependent on social status and that’s kinda sad."
  this is incorrect, stop drawing racist conclusions based on your assumptions and ignorance.
  "how is this possibly racist?"
  what is racist is you not liking Chinese people and their culture for no reason other than their race.
  to the point that you will vehemently insult an entire country, including its people, despite not knowing what you're talking about.
  
  Tbh I’m gonna ignore you now. Call me a pussy but I’m tired of having my words twisted. I can hate the country. It’s not racist. It would be racist if I hate the people. But I don’t. I hate the culture and you say I don’t know anything about it, even though I just stated things that I know about it. I never mentioned the race. I mentioned „work to death“ to the point where there are grids in front of windows so people can’t jump. And I mentioned social status. What worth does an unmarried 34 year old man have in china? Exactly. Close to none. I know these things. Stop denying the truth.
  And lastly FUCK YOU for repeatedly calling me a racist. You’re a fucking idiot if you think that. I clearly and obviously stated that I hate the culture, not the people. And I will say it again. I don’t hate Chinese people. I hate their culture and their government.
  Kill me for it. I’m done with this useless discussion.
  
  It's all good dude. The other people reading this realize you're not a racist, and that other guy you're arguing with is extremely narrow in his definition and unnecessarily combative over semantics, to the point of being anal-retentive.
  
  Thank you. I was starting to question myself but seriously couldn’t see anything wrong.
  Also your description of this person is very polite. I would have just called them a fucking asshole.
  Edit: I love how the person I replied to deleted all of their comments. Says a lot.
  
  You're the only one frightened enough to be using personal insults.
  Saying an entire country sucks ass when all you know about it is the race of its people is racist.
  Hating cultures you don't know anything about is racist.
  What you said is racist.
  I'm glad you're changing your tune, but it doesn't change your earlier racism.
  "...I know these things."
  You are factually incorrect. you obviously know nothing about china if you think a huge swath of their workforce is useless.
  You don't know things, you are ignorant of things.
  what you know: "I hate the culture", "I hate Chinese culturue", "fuck China", "I hate the whole thing"
  Most of this is defined as "cultural racism" - "Cultural racism is a concept that has been applied to prejudices and discrimination based on cultural differences between ethnic or racial groups. This includes the idea that some cultures are superior to others "
  You said you hate all of it,which includes the 1.4 billion people, which is more conventional racism.
  You are racist and are saying racist insults. That's who you are now, but you do not have to be stuck there.
  Now you are trying to change what you said, and claim you are not racist. That's a good first step, really.
  
  I see that your english is a bit wrong. It's not smart, neither knowledgeable when opinions are presented as facts, that is called dumb and deceived in english
  
  "...as facts, that is called dumb and deceived..."
  You use incorrect words, conjugations, punctuation and definitions as incorrect responses to your own reading incomprehension. I can help you with your English(the capitalized language).
  
  Your comments really come off as CCP propaganda. Either you drank the Koolaid, or your trying to fool people for the sake of a shitty government.
  
  "Your comments really come off as CCP propaganda"
  i warned against condemning and insulting am entire country of people and their culture because the self-appointed dictator is a harmful influence.
  so by me criticizing the head of the CCP and his harmful influence on China, you are seeing "CCP propaganda"?
  sounds like you might be influenced by...propaganda.
  "trying to fool people for the sake of a shitty government."
  how does my criticism of the head of the Chinese government in charge of all policy decisions in the last decade fool youn into support of the Chinese government?

Yes, they're smarter than us.

Thanks for the laugh.