OneNote to perish alongside Windows 10.
OneNote to perish alongside Windows 10
OneNote for Windows 10 will lose support on October 14, 2025. Users are urged to switch to OneNote on Microsoft 365 as soon as possible. A delayed switchover can lead to slower synchronization and regular notifications from Microsoft.
I fucking hate how Microsoft makes several different versions of OneNote, Teams, Outlook, MS accounts, etc. and then gives them the same name, and a very similar icon.
I can't wrap my head around who thought it was a good idea to have two Teams apps installed, with almost identical icons, and if you log into the personal Teams with an enterprise account or vice versa, you just get an error message.
Teams could have been a plugin on outlook. Now I need two apps to talk to everyone on work.
Every time I talk to my mom about her work with Microsoft products I'm dumbfounded "you have 3 tools from the same author and none of them interact with each other in any meaningful way but you have to use all 3 to get anything done?"
In order to resolve a concern, she has to check teams for the message to check her outlook for the email which will link to the ticket on Azure... And this isn't even an uncommon workflow lmao
Oh it gets better than that.
There are two calendars, one in outlook and another one in teams. They don't work the same way. If you have a teams meeting you need to attend you have to open that meeting in the teams calendar. Opening it up in the outlook calendar will just show the time but won't connect you to the call.
There‘s a button in the Outlook meeting to connect you or you click the link at bottom.
Eww no, Teams is a Slack like work chat app, Outlook is an email client and email is the worst thing to happen to corporate communication, email is only good for company wide announcements. The threaded view of a email chat looks idiotic, I've never met someone over the age of 40 who knows how to find an old email with attachments, so they keep asking you to email them the same files as attachments over and over again, it's slow as he'll, nothings more excruciating than the silence where you are on a meeting someone sends a email to someone else and now everyone has to wait for the email to arrive in the inbox. If it's not instant messaging I dont want it, "Yours sincerely" has no place in 2025 for me
It's often the only way for intercompany communication. Even if both companies use teams the various it departments have to do some incantation in order to make them talk to each other.
Sometimes meetings would be on the outlook calendar and not on the teams calendar or vice verse and then theres also shifts which is only viewable through teams and it makes me want to pull my hair out
Amen. There were actually three Teams clients at the same time (the Windows 11-bundled Teams "personal version", Teams [for business] and Teams [the new version]). Not to mention they also have Skype for Business (which is actually Lync rebranded, which is Communicator rebranded) which is not interoperable at all with Teams even though it's also an Office 365 conferencing app. And of course, Skype for Business is a completely different code base than Skype. Aaand they had Microsoft Kaizala which was basically the same use case but a completely different and incompatible implementation for countries with bad connectivity.
It's a complete and utter shitshow and I can't fathom why heads aren't rolling at Microsoft. Makes me think of this email from Bill Gates back in the day. If he was CEO now he would be fuming.
Also it seems like every one note version is good at some task or has access to formatting/organization options that others can only view.
I wish there was an open source solution in a similar manner to immich (quality and organization) wise.
There are boatloads of various note-taking apps, both open-source and not, that are much better than OneNote. Take a look at https://noteapps.info/features, where you can browse by specific features you're interested in. I've just recently switched from running DokuWiki for my homelab documentation to Joplin and I'm really loving it so far (I've setup sync to Hetzner's S3 service).
The only thing that's been keeping me on OneNote is the handwriting stuff. I keep trying to move to Obsidian cause I like it but I take notes on my iPad constantly. As much or more than on my computer.
And I really like how OneNote will take my chicken scratch and use OCR to turn it into actual text.
I can understand that. Maybe check the list I noted above, I’m pretty sure quite a few can do handwriting recognition (doesn’t the iPad’s native handwriting recognition work with Obsidian?). Though I understand the ‘don’t fix it if it ain’t broke’ inclination as well…
It's not a bug, it's a feature.
But how? And why? Where’s the profit in that?
You have to have redundant software in order to operate. More versions is more purchase transactions. End user hostile garbage.
Its a pain in the fucking ass when managing Macs on an MDM and you want specific icons in the dock. Teams would update and change the name but the profile would point to the now non existent old name and then there would just be a “?” Users would think they no longer have that application on their device even though you could access perfectly fine from launchpad or through the applications alias
You've regularly got the same issue on Windows, amazingly.
