5d ago

Liberals Maintain Commanding Lead with Major Seat Efficiency Advantage

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Conservative support is strongest among the poorest and least educated. It's always a bit odd how Conservatives gain support among these groups whom they absolutely have no intention of helping. But I guess they are the ones most likely not to be thinking it through too carefully. Just "taxes bad, immigrants bad, trans people bad."
- That phenomenon is called false consciousness.
- NOUN THE VERB
- Disclaimer: Not Canadian, perhaps I'm projecting :)
  Pleas don't mix up uneducated or poor with stupid: without the education necessary and the time to perform a critical cause/effect analysis it's near impossible to do. Only chance is again historic education.
  The conservative message is really really easy: "this X is the cause for all your problems!"
  And at first glance it's easy to agree: I have a bad job. An immigrant has a better job. Of course they are the cause for me not having a job!
  That's the conservatives weapon: they simplify their lies until you need time and effort to see through it - or learn from the past. They make sure that the poor don't have the chance to either and the cycle continues.
  Personal note: fuck them. In every country, for every lie for every "policy".
- Yea, I don't get why the poor supporting conservatives who would cut all the social support programs that the poor needs.
  Start seeing this "both sides are the same" followed by "may as well just stay home" posts which ring like the cons bots/ trolls astro-turfing trying to swing the election for conservative. Happened in usa and now it's happening here in Canada.
  I'm not going to be one of those usa voters who decided to vote for Jill Stein because "Democrat is not perfect". They (along with those who couldn't even be bothered to vote) are partly to blame for the second trump regime. Canada sovereignty is at stake. Our way of life is at stake in this election. Until we got an electoral reform to replace "First Past the Post", I am going to continue to vote strategically against conservative. pierre and conservative win will be a nightmare for Canada because they cannot be trusted to put Canada and Canadians over usa, billionaires and corporations' profit.
  NDP is dear and near to my heart but in this coming election, I'm voting for and donating to my local Liberal candidate.
- Sure but during this election what do I vote for? More of Trudueau or the right. Carney seems to have the same issues as the Democrats down south they can't and won't change. Brining back people who had cabinet positions and where responsible for the mess we are in is a mistake.
  
  I know. There's no perfect answer, especially under FPTP. But holding your nose and voting strategically isn't the worst thing to do just to buy time, prevent the utter destruction of the public institutions, preserve free expression, and slow the rise of the far right. The USA shows us that in hindsight a strategic vote can look more clearly like the thing to do than it did at the time, even when it's a vote for wishy-washy liberalism. I consider myself further to the left than any mainstream party in Canada, yet I look at the USA and think they would have done a lot better to re-elect the (genocide-supporting) Democrats. It would have been more neoliberal imperialism, but it would have bought time for the people to organize against fascism, and perhaps for the fascists to make mistakes and lose support, that the USA now doesn't have.
  I don't like to be saying this, but a strategic vote may be more necessary than ever this time. I don't want my friends and family persecuted and disappeared off the streets, academics censored, science defunded and suppressed, and public institutions systematically dismantled, as is happening in the USA, and Poilievre intends to lead us in that direction.
  
  Oh yes let's vote in our little submissive trumplover then so he can remove qualified people from positions for not being white enough then we too can disappear people for free speech, have planes fall out of the sky, and also ignore what operational security is and lie about it because it's going so well down there. He would have us join the us and then give away our natural resources for free, and have us follow their recession so long as it put money in his pockets.
  How very educated of you.

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