Good Eating: Ezra Klein and Abundance libs realize that China is blowing past the United States
https://www.reddit.com/r/ezraklein/comments/1jzozuw/why_trump_could_lose_his_trade_war_with_china/
The podcast itself is quite interesting if you can handle moments of extreme liberalism, both hosts admit that china is living in the future and that America has failed on a structural level
NGL, while abundance liberals are in the right place, I have been informed its leaders are gigafash. Normies? By all means, I’d love to chat with them but the whole abundance agenda can fuck right off.
EDIT: While I still think its worthwhile to reach out to disaffected libs. I take back my endorsement of the abundance agenda. I refuse to “hand it to” fascists of any flavor, including Strasserites with rainbow flags.
I absolutely disagree that they are a few good conversations from being left-wing. Especially for the libs that are pushing the abundance agenda, the abundance agenda is specifically a way to off ramp liberal voters who are radicalizing from listening to left-wing analysis. It is a limp response to the question "Why isn't M4A even on the agenda anymore? What happened to the GND or Bidenomics?"
The problem is that the difference between an abundance lib and a socialist is chauvinism. And chauvinism runs impossibly deep.
The deregulate industries libs and let the markets handle it clinton libs? they are centrists wriggling their way into getting lobby money while being dem-acceptable, not dems wriggling their way into equality. The "why do we have regulations on air filtration systems libs?" parse out their logic, it's literally libertarian 90s bits about "government regulations"
leaving aside ezra, the rest of them are genocidal maniacs as well
Abundance is an interesting phenomenon. Its the first time since the Great Society libs propose a grand vision of the world instead of their usual
nothing will fundamentally change other than welfare tweaksI agree that a lot of them are ripe for moving left as their vision runs into the brick wall of capital
Their "grand vision" is just "produce more" which is literally just capitalism. There is nothing new about it and I fail to see how it's an interesting phenomenon to you.
nope they are possibly the furthest from communism of anyone. They have woven intricate fantasies to insulate themselves from having to be leftwing. They are specifically anti-left and their ideology is handmade to innoculate peole against the left.
Just like the radlibs were the most fervent warmongers, and in fact the most dangerous imperialists in the USA, these are the most dangerous reactionaries.
They at least understand that they need to promise a better future to win. The problem is they're just repackaging neoliberalism which isn't going to cut it.
EDIT: While I still think its worthwhile to reach out to disaffected libs. I take back my endorsement of the abundance agenda. I refuse to “hand it to” fascists of any flavor, including Strasserites with rainbow flags.
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