Democrats worry their most loyal voters won’t turn out for Biden in 2024
Democrats worry their most loyal voters won’t turn out for Biden in 2024
Summary:
Democrats are becoming increasingly concerned about a possible drop in Black voter turnout for the 2024 presidential election, according to party insiders. The worries arise from a 10% decrease in Black voter turnout in the 2022 midterms compared to 2018, a more substantial decline than any other racial or ethnic group, as per a Washington Post analysis. The decline was particularly significant among younger and male Black voters in crucial states like Georgia, where Democrats aim to mobilize Black voter support for President Biden in 2024.
The Democratic party has acknowledged the need to bolster their outreach efforts to this demographic. W. Mondale Robinson, founder of the Black Male Voter Project, highlighted the need for Democrats to refocus their attention on Black male voters, who have shown lower levels of engagement. In response, Biden's team has pledged to communicate more effectively about the benefits that the Black community has reaped under Biden's administration, according to Cedric L. Richmond, a senior advisor at the Democratic National Committee.
However, Black voter advocates have identified deep-seated issues affecting Black voter turnout. Many Black men reportedly feel detached from the political process and uninspired by both parties' policies. Terrance Woodbury, CEO of HIT Strategies, a polling firm, suggests that the Democratic party's focus on countering Trump and Republican extremism doesn't motivate younger Black men as much as arguments focused on policy benefits. Concerns are growing within the party that if they fail to address these issues, disenchanted Black voters might either abstain or, potentially, be swayed by Republican messaging on certain key issues.
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From a non-US standpoint this is rather easy:
You have 2 geriatric options. Option 1 would lead to a dictatorship. Option 2 would lead to the - non-ideal - status quo.
How the fuck do you even have to think about which option would be better???
The Dems have ran non ideal status quo candidates for so long it becomes fatiguing so people stay home or write in Snoop Dogg.
While I totally understand the frustration - apathy cannot be a solution in this scenario!
You'd rather sit at home and watch your democracy go up in flames than just make an "x" on a piece of paper or a screen? Seriously, come on man...
Nothing in the comment to which you replied suggests that the commenter has given up. They merely describe what causes people to do so. At least as I read it.
Democracy is going up in flames either way, the question is whether we want it fast or slow. The only way to stop it is for the Dems to put up decent candidates who want to stop the slide, and thus far, they've declined to do so. So while yes, we should keep voting blue to slow the slide, we shouldn't be stupid enough to believe that doing so is enough to stop it.
This is why La Resistance, the Warsaw uprising, French and American revolutions should never have happened. Vichy France was correct to let Nazis govern and molest them. Jewish Capos in concentration camps had it right when they turned on others to avoid their own discomfort. New traitors are born everyday and want to make you as well them, crestfallen you might say
I can always tell when someone is either weak or young by the way they respond to psychological discomfort. Why even bear any choice, if free will is an illusion? Why are you so scared to fight and die? Dante rightfully placed them in an especially deep and specific circle of his hell.
huh
I CAN TELL SOMEONE IS WEAK BY THEIR STATED BELIEFS.
I CAN TELL OP IS EITHER YOUNG OR INEXPERIENCED.
YOU PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET ARE SAD WOMEN.
I'VE DONE TIME, AND WILL DO MORE TIME. WHEN I'M LOCKED UP I COLLECT ADDRESSES AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT WAVE.
RIGHT NOW I'M FREE AND CHOOSING TARGETS.
JOIN THE FIGHT, YOU F-GGY BABIES.
While I totally understand the frustration - apathy cannot be a solution in this scenario!
Then quit accepting it from those we elect.
Don't be an idiot. It's been going on for so long, and the two party FPTP system is so broken, that this disgruntlement is justified. If neither party changes, and if voting for the less bad choice is construed as endorsement, them what other choice does a conscientious voter have?
You do understand that the choice you are essentially voting for, if you don't vote, is a fundamentalist dictatorship that will tell you how to live your life, and imprison you if you don't obey, while taking your freedoms and wealth anyway even if you do. Yes?
Apathy is fine as long as both parties believe in running a democracy. The gop no longer does.
You don't. You don't understand the frustration. You're not part of this you're just a casual observer with an opinion formed from the outside.
I see alot of don't let perfect be the enemy of good rhetoric and it comes off to me as "I've done fairly well in this system, I'm OK with it being rigged to its core"
Last non-ideal Dem for President was... Kerry?
Clinton was definitely not ideal, lol. Just another corporate dem. I still voted for her though.
Clinton is my favorite politician, and I could not have been more excited to work on her campaign
What makes her your favorite?
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/8/hillary-clinton-dreams-open-borders-leaked-speech-/
And her health care and immigration policies. Experience in gov and general way of looking at the world. I stan a queen.
My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the Hemisphere,” she said in the May 2013 speech to the Brazilian bank Banco Itau.
This gets me hard
Clinton probably would have been just as good as president for a third term as her first two.
non-ideal over violent civil war
this is not a tough decision, my friend
Exactly. I live in America and I can't believe the stupidity of some of these comments like "well because they're running Joe Biden I won't vote waaaah!" Ok, then enjoy your dictatorship? It culturally is the worst thing I hate about being here.
Because the dictatorship is a minor inconvenient side effect of their team winning.
This is exactly it.
Also:
he's not as bad as the Democrats say, they are just mad because their team lost"
..followed by endless rationalization and moving goalposts
The dictatorship is the end goal.
But if you don't consider Trump the absolute threat that he is, you just stay home. When I thought there was no way he'd win (2016) I didn't vote for Hilary because I hate her. I voted for Biden because the threat had become real.
Dems are correctly assessing that there are still people who see Trump as a clown show rather than a future dictator.
Easy is subjective. The choice is obvious but having to vote for someone you know doesn't represent most of us isn't easy. It's a hard thing that we have to do. Nobody is thinking about what option to vote for here. We're grieving the decision that's already been made for us because there's no acceptable alternative. But thanks for your contributions. It's always so very helpful when people that don't even live our lives roll up to state the obvious.
Because the status quo at this point will also kill millions, just slower.
If an actual fascist dictatorship were a real threat the democratic party would be totally impotent against it.
An actual fascist dictatorship IS the real threat. What do you think trump will do if he wins?
Yep. These "I just won't vote" comments are naive.
We have lost the Supreme Court to Republicans and they put in three hack judges. We have lost the House. We barely have a 50/50, and some paid off Dems like Tricia Cotham who was a GOP plant switched sides. Steve Bannon is running chaos agent RFK Jr. to try to screw up Dem votes. We cannot pass any bills, really. We are at risk of Trump or a Hitler clone like Desantis running. We are at high risk of fascism right now.
The LAST thing we need right now is to whine about current candidate availability. We are not in a position to do so. To not vote, or even vote third party right now in our tenuous position is suicide. We can fix these things later. But not now. The goal right now is to get in enough Democrats to repair what Trump did. Then prevent it from happening again. And it takes time.
When fascism actually comes it will make Trump look like mother Teresa.
If fascism comes to America, it will be at the hands Donald Trump or one of his devotees.
I think this mentality is what let's fascism take root. And capitalism has a natural bent for it. So trump has already done his worst damage imo. It's what continues to grow from it that is concerning.
Fascism takes root because of deep socio-economic capitalist crisis, not because of anomalous mentalities of individuals. Fascists are dealt with by dealing with the sections of the bourgeoisie that fielded them, ie. by a revolution that addresses that which gives cause to fascism, ie. capitalism.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1922/bordiga02.htm
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War with China- the same thing that will happen if Biden wins.
Yeah this is why I'm glad things aren't looking great for Desantis lately.
I just don't bother voting. We need a large majority of eligible voters, those who actually don't believe in the system, to stop showing up. When the tide goes out, we can all see who's swimming naked.
This is the dumbest thing I've read in this thread. I can't imagine you're anything but a troll trying to get people not to vote.
Neither party represents me
I'm not from the US either, but I'm pretty sure there's a third choice - staying home.
I was mostly referring to the (likely) candidates as options, but yes, sadly you are right. Doesnt help that by design it is more difficult to vote for certain groups than others. Still. If I had to take a day off and risk my job by doing so - It would be worth it to prevent a dictatorship!
That's a vote for Hitler V2
First of all, not voting is, by definition, not a vote for anyone or anything. Second, the right to vote always includes the right to not vote for any of the given choices.
Sure. But failure to vote against Hitler is supporting fascism.
What does it say about the democratic party that they praise this system, uphold it, and use it as a cudgel to shame people into voting for them? Top democratic members, including biden, claim that we need a strong republican party. Why do we need a strong fascist party? To scare people into voting for the democrats who are republican-lites, of course.
They mean a strong opposition party without fascists. The Rs are led by an actual Nazi who has stated his desire to obliterate all who oppose him If that's not enough to motivate you, it means you're okay with it.
This just screams "I can fix him!" but for a political party. The republican party is a lost cause, even assuming your charitable interpretation of what they said, it's an impossible task. That democrats insist that we must keep them strong means that they're not only okay with fascism, they actively encourage it. It is the natural evolution of capitalism, after all, and democrats are all about that. While they're enabling fascism, democrats think they have a monopoly on morality and that if you don't vote for them then it's your fault that fascism exists... which, again, they enable.
I've said this elsewhere, but I vote for democrats every single time, I'm just not stupid enough to think it's going to make things better. That's simply not the goal of democrats.