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Posting this meme like you aren't voting for Biden
Biden voters have the gun of fascism to their head. To pretend otherwise ignores reality.
You're going to vote for someone materially supporting genocide and you're going to act like fascism is on the ballot.
Chauvinism. You understand that in fascist states there's a class of people who are privileged and enjoy the product of the brutality, right?
You're okay with voting for fascism abroad because you're part of that class.
Republicans are so fucking pro Israel it's laughable. What the fuck are you even saying? Have you completely lost the thread of the last twenty years to be coming in here pretending the opposite? I legitimately think you're a fascist who wants to end democracy and you're arguing in bad faith.
https://www.jns.org/netanyahu-meets-with-republican-senators-in-jerusalem/ ^ senate minority leader
https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/netanyahu-meets-with-republicans-after-temple-mount-visit-618092 ^ Speaker of the house
Republicans invite Netanyahu to address Congress as part of spurning of Obama ^ basically every republican
https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/31845/ ^ you're a fucking clown bro
https://globalnews.ca/video/10091490/the-u-s-has-always-stood-with-israel-chuck-schumer-speaks-at-march-for-israel-rally-in-washington ^ senate majority leader
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/the-week-when-biden-hugged-bibi ^ President of the United States
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=q05 ^ basically every democrat
No, you're a fucking clown for thinking one side being bad makes the other side good.
You: vote republican or you support genocide.
Me: you're seriously pretending Republicans don't also support this shit? You're a clown.
You: :clown: honk honk
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And since we're editing links in retroactively, fuck it:
Trump says he stands with Netanyahu after a barrage of GOP criticism for saying he ‘let us down’
Man you really edited the fuck out of that comment over time. But sure lets respond to the edit. It's a two party system, and one of them wants to turn it into a one party system. You're clearly on board with that plan. I am not.
Complaining about me having an edit window of 5 minutes in a comment where you came back 15 minutes later to add shit
go completely fuck yourself with your hypocritical bitching
Not that you added a single thing of substance mind you
You think another link to republicans being bad changes my reply to your three previous links of the same thing? Deeply unserious. You argue like you're sleep walking. Zero conscious thought. Simply not paying attention. Dull.
Me: shooting a child in the head because if I don't the other party will
"honk honk I don't actually like murdering children lol believe me"
Me: shooting a child in the head because if I don't the other party will
"honk honk I don't actually like murdering children lol believe me"
... what?
Your argument boils down to actual real life whataboutism. You dodge the question of supporting genocide yourself by saying the other side is also bad.
So the fuck what? Blood on your hands is morally superior because YOU'RE morally superior?
You're voting in favor of murdering children either way. Even on your own terms. You just pretend it doesn't matter.
In the bounds of Israel support, there's no good candidate. We're arguing because you're trying to pretend this is a democrat vs republican thing.
I reminded you that it's very much an American politician thing, and oh, btw January 6th happened, and we're on track for a republican coup if we give Trump power again.
That's what happened in this conversation. Are you good?
Please stop editing your fucking posts. It's like trying to argue with your drafts.
Please stop editing your fucking posts. It’s like trying to argue with your drafts.
Maybe don't refresh your page every 30 seconds you fucking psychopath.
In the bounds of Israel support, there’s no good candidate. We’re arguing because you’re trying to pretend this is a democrat vs republican thing.
And that's why my thesis is you should vote for the lesser evil. I'm completely incoherent lol
Edit: NOTE: by 'lesser evil' I mean the maximum amount of evil but the other side wouldn't be any better
Please google what Whataboutism actually means.
The US has hardly any democracy in their electoral system. All you can do on federal level is inputting a 1 bit vote once every four years. And if you don't live in a swing state, that vote doesn't count at all.
So there are only three possible choices on the ballot:
-Vote for A -Vote for B -Vote for another party, do a blank vote or don't go voting
All of the options in the third choice lead to exactly the same result: You have no input regarding the result.
So if your choice is between A, B, or leaving it up to others to decide for you, then comparing the stances of A and B is exactly what you have to do, because there is no other option where your vote does anything.
So let's compare these two:
-Republicans are 100% behind Israel and genocide. -Democrats are at least split on the topic of Israel and genocide.
So what's the right choice to take here? All three options likely lead to more genocide. Not voting doesn't change anything because politicians care about being voted into office, and non-voters don't stop them from getting into office.
So to circle back to the beginning:
Whataboutism means that you bring up an unrelated topic of something that's maybe worse to make something else seem less bad.
For example: "I don't do anything to save the environment, because my neighbor drives a massive truck."
Whataboutism does not apply if you are comparing two related points to each other, e.g. "I vote for A, because voting for B is worse and there are no other choices."
Lol fuck off, you're enabling Trump, who is the fascist on the ballot
'The' fascist on the ballot
Better than being a straight-up fascist.
You're not less of a fascist because you're the one in the in-group. Quite the opposite.
I am less of a fascist that someone who spreads propaganda with the clear goal of getting fascists elected.
It's not fascism if it's only against brown people
What is your point? What other alternative does the left have? The US is a two party state, and that is how democracy works there. I've yet to see anyone present me with an answer to that question.
Third parties
Sadly, that's not an option since US elections are Plurality Voting/First Past the Post.
If we had ranked choice voting with instant runoff, that would be a different story.
Build dual power institutions and provide the services of a functioning state within the dying husk of the current regime until such time that it collapses under its own contradictions when you leverage the organization and capacity you've built up to seize state power.
And if you don't the fascists will.
I am all for building dual power, but doing that doesn't prevent you from voting for the slightly less bad party. In fact, it will take a long time till any institution we build will have enough power to have a meaningful impact in people's lives, so reducing the suffering in the meantime is extremely important. And don't even begin talking about third parties or something like that. You know as well as I do that they are never going to win. Strategic voting is the best thing we have in the brutal US electoral system.