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I'm glad Fedora comes with the most usable no-bs/out-of-the-way (in my subjective experience) DE by default. Yes I do run it with Tweaks and a few extensions, but otherwise I have no need for extensive customization for customization’s sake (which seems so many ppls problem with GNOME, smth that I couldn't find more irrelevant), since everything about its UI/UX is so intuitive. I understand if people don't like its opinionated workflow, but it's just right for me personally...
I don't get the proposal either way bc Fedora has always been the spearhead of vanilla GNOME and there is an official KDE spin iirc
I don't really get what people mean when describing Gnome or any DE as "out of the way". I've never felt like KDE was "in my way".
I really couldn't find a better way to describe how it feels to use gnome. I am used almost all tiling window managers through the years. I always got lost in configuring my setup. I know I didn't have to, but there was almost another step of optimization that was available to me. This is not a bad thing in and of itself, of course. I have been using gnome o arch for the past few years, a plank/dock extension, a system tray, and a clipboard manager. That's it, there is nothing to fiddle with, to distract me. It is entirely personal. I just can't stop myself from trying to optimize my desktop/workflow if there are still ways to optimize it. Before gnome I was using my WM/DE and then the applications necessary for my actual work. Now, the DE is "out of the way" and I just do what I actually have to do. But again, this is entirely personal.
This is very similar to my experience tho I have skipped most of my ricing/customization phase with Gnome bc I just didn't feel the need to do much about it bar a few extensions
I mean not having a clipboard manager is pretty bad, even Win11 has that.
Or you can run OpenSuSE which comes with one of the best Kde versions by default.
It's another enterprise type distribution that's rock solid. It also has a rolling version.
1lso it's based in Europe, which some see as a plus.
I plan on switching to Slowroll once it's matured, but I think I'll stay with Gnome :p
Slowroll does sound like a great model for versioning and patching software.
But for the actual package management I dont want to use anything but rpm-ostree. The immutable OpenSUSE variants are a joke and dont offer any real benefits over Tumbleweed to my knowledge (after having researched them).
Fedora may offer that "more stable package set" when sticking to the old release, currently F39. Not its still less seemless.
I also really like the GNOME workflow and try to recreate it currently, but the missing menu is kinda making that hard.
I like workspaces and want to use them. But I also like a bottom bar where I can add all the small things I need. Not much, but currently CPU load and temps, weather, workspace indicator, a few spacers, rest default.
I like the powerful apps where there are no alternatives on GNOME. Dolphin (the absolute best, cant use anything else, pcmanfm-qt is bearable), Kate/Kwrite, Okular, Gwenview.
GNOME literally ships Loupe, which doesnt have a single editing function. Use GIMP for the rest?? For rotating or cropping images?
While I really like the workflow, there are sooo many things (like a clipboard manager) missing that it is not worth it for me.
the Gnome devs are undeniably metaphorically tweakers on heroin tho