First Presidential Debate Megapost!
First Presidential Debate Megapost!
Here we go, the first Presidential debate between Biden and Trump begins at 9 PM Eastern/6 PM Pacific.
How to watch it:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/politics/how-to-watch-cnn-debate/index.html
"The CNN Presidential Debate will air live on CNN, CNN International and CNN en Español, and via streaming on Max for subscribers and without a cable login on CNN.com. CNN will make the debate available to simulcast on additional broadcast and cable news networks.
You can also follow CNN’s live debate coverage on CNN.com, which will include analysis and fact checking."
"According to parameters set by CNN in May, all participating debaters had to appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to reach the 270 electoral vote threshold to win the presidency and receive at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet CNN’s standards for reporting.
Polls that meet those standards are those sponsored by CNN, ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, Marquette University Law School, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times/Siena College, NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College, Quinnipiac University, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post."
Edit And that's it! Thanks for watching everyone!
tl;dw:
Consensus is Trump didn't so much as beat Biden as Biden beat himself.
The real loser is CNN who failed to fact check anyone, and there were obvious fact checks on both sides.
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I keep tuning in and out. I tune out when Trump speaks because everything he says is just such an affront to objective reality. But then I also tune out when Biden speaks because... He just comes off as so old it's making me cringe. Like, this is the best we could come up with to combat a literal fucking fascist.
Then I wonder, what part of this am I listening to? The questions?
Listen to the substance.
Debates aren't about substance unfortunately, debates are performance. That's all people take away from them. Information needs to be conveyed but it's got to be conveyed in a way that resonates.
and I say it's time to stop carrying the exact thing you're complaining about by perpetuating it
I'm not complaining about it and I don't have to perpetuate it. It's just a fact. It's not a scenario we can change. If you want it to be based on substance you should read position papers. Oratory has always and will always be performative. That will never change, because that's its nature.
Fair!
I tried muting the TV and just reading the captions for a little, and it made me a fair bit more confident in Biden. And he did have some good moments after I turned the sound back on. I'm just worried it won't be enough. Maybe it's the anxiety of realizing that we've actually reached election season.