Erdogan says Turkey might enter Israel to help Palestinians
Erdogan says Turkey might enter Israel to help Palestinians
No way that could go bad
Maybe Syria, Iran, and India could join in? What fun! Ireland could bring the snacks
India is an Israel ally, unfortunately. They love to trade weaponry with each other among other things like that spyware the government sneaked into everyone's phone.
2026 is right around the corner, let's just hurry up to make it canon
Obviously any and all outside support for either is completely due to complex and additional ulterior motives.... but even knowing that, I'm sick of my taxes being used like they are and I find myself in agreement with this fucker....
What moment did we stray from a reasonable timeline
It was never a reasonable timeline. Modern history is essentially the present population waking up to the crimes of past (and present) generations, including their direct ancestors.
Israel was created by colonial states committing colonial-minded crimes, during the near-total collapse of colonialism immediately following WW2. England had assumed control of "Mandatory Palestine" after the Ottoman Empire fell with WW1. Through the League of Nations — dominated by colonial powers, like the UN is to this day — they essentially annexed land they had no legitimate ownership of, denying the population of Palestine their basic human rights to democracy and self determination, and gifted it to millions of refugees who were not even born in that location, and held no reasonable claim to that land (beyond ancestry from hundreds/thousands of years ago, that never made up more than a minority of the people who lived there).
It would make more sense, and be more logically and legally justifiable, to give the USA, Canada, and Australia to their indigenous populations in 2024 — who 100% owned those lands up until the last few hundred years — than to give Palestine to the Jewish population in 1946.
Similar crimes happened in South East Asia and Africa post-WW2. For example France trying to militarily reclaim Laos and Vietnam (backed by the USA). Both the Vietnam war and Cambodian genocide may have never occurred if those countries were allowed to implement legitimate democracy.
Totally with you here.
How did I end up on a timeline where I am vibing with Erdogan.
For clarity, he says:
Just like we entered Karabakh, just like we entered Libya, we might do similar to them.
Türkiye didn't "enter" into either of those countries with its own troops. Rather they used Syrian mercs, and provided technical support, including "selling" their drones.
I don't think what he means is sending in troops in this situation as well. Türkiye (or rather, maybe, Erdoğan's ruling party) has existing strong ties with both Hamas and Hezbollah.
So my assumption on how this translates would be arms shipments to Lebanon. I don't think they can get anything in to Gaza. And I don't think either Lebanon or Palestine would welcome Syrian mercenaries.
But let's see.
The same Turkey that continues to attack and slaughter the Kurds of Rojava unprompted? That Turkey?
Bit hypocritical, eh?
Sounds based but likely not more than empty words.
Though he did put a nice boycott on israel after a few months of Genocide.
Based Erdogran? Nah, he's just playing international poker and making waves.
Have to bump it up a notch. The ongoing war headlines were getting kind of stale.
He's just playing to the cheap seats; posturing to distract from economic issues.
"Might"
The Palestinian resistance groups have been saying very clearly that they welcome support like how Hezbollah, Yemen, Iran, and the Iraqi groups have been providing. But that they do not want other nations sending in troops. That they will be seen as an occupying force and will be treated as one. Though I might be conflating them entering Gaza and West Bank. So maybe the other areas that are "Israel" based on the 1968 maps? Seems like another chance for them to make a stop into PKK areas on the way?
Not to be a clit...but why don;t they take in the Palestinians to begin with?
Because of the lack of right of return.
That, and once Turkey accepts them, then what? It's a net negative for Turkey. More refugee mouths to feed that they can't patriate as citizens. And ones that can't return to where they're from.I'm saying this as a Palestinian who grew up outside of Palestine, none of us have any right of return. That goes for all who leave now too.
Holy shit you mind I do a I do a request on https://lemmy.world/c/amarequests to ask you a bunch of questions if you are okay with it?
You mean assist with Israel's ethnic cleansing?
Because Palestine is their home.
Turkey does not have a good track record supporting oppressed minorities:
Don't forget the Armenians
It'd be political suicide. A very justified one, I might add. Turkey has already taken on WAAAY too many refugees over the last years, and the consequences have become pretty bad. It's a hot topic right now. Even his supporters are sick of his immigration policies, which he's been using as a way to import voters by fast tracking them to full citizenship.
Last time someone took in a lot of Palestinians en masse resulted in a civil war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September
It's more complex than that, but usually that's why a lot of countries don't want to help that way.
LMAO I am currently reading the book about them and the wiki page. Have not finished yet but will tell you when I finish both.