Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open
Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open
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Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open
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If I needed a laptop I'd get a framework, sure it's a bit more expensive at the beginning but you'll probably save in the long run. It's also good to show there's a market for user serviceable tech, hopefully forces big tech's hand a bit.
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here is the list of countries & regions they're shipping to
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Thank God they don't ship here or I'd have bought it
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At that price I’d honestly just get a MacBook. I know there’s a lot of Apple hate here, but they make phenomenal laptops.
I probably also wouldn’t ever upgrade my laptop, so framework probably isn’t for me anyways.
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Definitely not worth buying if you're not planning on upgrading it in the future. The point of framework is the customizability and future-proofing, otherwise it's pretty expensive compared to similar spec-d laptops.
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The point of this machine is to be repairable, not cheap. It allows you to keep the same machine for longer and reduce your e-waste in the long term.
EDIT: and yes, if you're not interested in repairability then it's not really worth it.
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Enjoy your soldered storage. If it breaks you have to pay out the nose to replace an SSD, the easiest of upgrades/repairs
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According to configurator, for 2000$ you get a Linux capable laptop with 32 Gb RAM, 2Tb SAD, and one of the top CPUs on the market. It’s definitely not price that MacBooks compete with this on, as anything comparable starts at 500$ more.
M1 versions do compete on price, but there’s a whole other set of trade offs there.
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It is for different people.
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If you’d buy a new laptop, you could upgrade the old one instead
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I could, but by the time I need a new laptop (last one I bought was 2017) the chassis and screen end up beat to shit and need to be replaced anyways.
I also just have no use for upgrades in my laptops. They’re always single purpose machines and I replace them when they break, not when they get slow.
I have a desktop that keeps up with modern hardware. Never got the need for the same in my laptop
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Great, then I'd have no software to run.
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No Linux on new MacBooks from what I understand.
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Honestly I prefer macOS over Linux for laptops
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I have been daily driving an apple silicon macbook pro for over a year. Honestly couldn't see myself going back and I only use my PC for gaming now.
Still some small annoyances, but the battery life...
I am glad framework exists though. It would be the top of my list if I needed a windows laptop for sure.
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It's so well built, everything works with no driver issues
You might run into a lot of driver issues if you try to run anything besides MacOS.
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Honestly after my experience with the MacBook Pro 13 2017 I can't take anyone who says that Apple makes phenomenal laptops seriously.
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You can't just say that and not explaining why
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No Linux on new MacBooks from what I understand.
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Linux is available for m1 and newer machines but your point stands.
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It’s funny, I felt that way for years, then I actually learned the OS after using windows for the past 20 years.
I can confidently say I’ll never buy a new windows laptop again due to the OS. I can’t live without my trackpad gestures anymore.
It’s not for everyone, but I’ve yet to find a use case outside of gaming that a windows laptop is better for.
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I used nothing but Apple computers from the early 80's right until around the time that Steve Jobs died. I really liked what they were back then. Snow Leopard was an amazing OS. I've found that the spirit of what I liked about those earlier Apple computers is more present in Linux than in modern Apple computers these days.
I know there's been some success with running Linux on Apple hardware, but even so, I'd favor buying into a positive philosophy of how a business should be run and how products should be made just as much as the quality of the hardware. And in the case of Framework, it doesn't appear they're making remotely bad hardware.
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I used nothing but Apple computers from the early 80's right until around the time that Steve Jobs died. I really liked what they were back then. Snow Leopard was an amazing OS. I've found that the spirit of what I liked about those earlier Apple computers is more present in Linux than in modern Apple computers these days.
I know there's been some success with running Linux on Apple hardware, but even so, I'd favor buying into a positive philosophy of how a business should be run and how products should be made just as much as the quality of the hardware. And in the case of Framework, it doesn't appear they're making remotely bad hardware.
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I just go to the Apple Store website, max out the specs
I just did that and it ended up being $6499 USD. Idk about you, but that's a bit steep for a laptop to my taste. Id rather buy a $2000 laptop and if it breaks I can literally buy another one while still spending less, or just use the warranty.
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Fewer, better things is a good axiom
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Great! That will fit on the shelf next to my Framework 13 Ryzen pre-order 😄
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If only I had 2000 euros to spare for this beauty...
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I’ve placed a pre-order - I expect to be in the market for a laptop this year and considering the specs (especially the 2560x1600 165Hz screen) it’s within a reasonable range of an off the shelf gaming laptop. I keep my hardware for a long time (this will replace an i7-4000 series laptop) so repairability and upgrades matter a lot to me.
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Numpad or no numpad? The choice is yours.
Was this a feature of the previous generation? This is really cool! Framework has settled the numpad debate.
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No, it's new
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I'm really excited about these. I hope over time, some standard for modular laptops develops and it extends beyond Framework. Kind of like how we have ATX and ITX motherboards, for example. I don't pretend to grasp all of the practical issues with making that happen, but it'd be a promising direction.
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I dumped a cup of coffee in my laptop a month ago and was so bummed that it wasn't for sale yet.
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I would immediately buy it, if it was 15".
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It's a 15" screen that's slightly taller. That's all.
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My 16" laptop is smaller than my 15.6" because it has thinner bezels (tbh they were huge on the 15.6 dell)
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When are they shipping?
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"Q4 2023" so no firm date. They also have "Batches" so if you're in batch 1 vs batch 4 delivery date will be different
Edit: 2023 (not 2024) Y'all are correct - very misleading typo on my part. My bad!
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Q4 2023
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Luckily i don't have the money for it
Credit cards don’t fail me now!
I also don't have the money for it.... Well shit I've got a batch 1 order time to find $2500 somehow.