It's just like purchasing carbon offsets, if God were real and He was 100% coming to punish us. With indulgences, you at least didn't actually go to hell at the end I don't think.
You seem to imply that carbon offsets actually work, and while I've heard some do, I also had the impression that most don't
Bro
- Indulgences
- Investment: Money
- Supposed impact: Escape hell
- Problem: They're a scam
- Actual impact: Nothing
- What you could do instead: Save your money
- Carbon offsets
- Investment: Money
- Supposed impact: Escape climate crisis
- Problem: They're a scam
- Actual impact: Climate crisis anyway
- What you could do instead: Save your money but also stop killing the planet
The comic, and my entire comment replying to it, wouldn't make sense if carbon offsets weren't a scam. IDK why Lemmy is so full of people who want to explain to me things that were the underlying basis for the very thing they're replying to, but yes, carbon credits are mostly a scam.
- Indulgences
If it doesn't work then it's not carbon offseting...
Seems like some people (I might be the misinformed one) are referring to specific policies, not the broader concept. Plant a tree and we can be fairly certain it will take carbon out of the atmosphere because that's what the majority of a tree is made of. Pretty basic stuff.
If politicians are trying to rought the masses with shitty policies then criticise that, not the very idea that there's more we could be doing about manmade climate change.
"What offsets"?
"Ah, don't worry about it, it's just something we'll come up with next time this ruse runs out of steam"
Like selling insurance that never has to pay a claim.
Doesn't this mean a Reformation is on the way?
Reformation fixed nothing. When my grandpa died, his Catholic Church which he donated and volunteered for over two decades, charged my grandma money so that the priest would mention his name in a blessing during Sunday mass.
Right. The reformation also spawned the protestant church. Joel Osteen doesn’t exactly embody the anti-indulgence church either. If the reformation had led people away from the church, it would have fixed it. Instead there are multiple sides, each one pointing at the other and saying “well, we’re not like them though”.
I thought there was a bit more reasoning behind it, it probably depends on it being a mandatory thing: pollute less or you have to pay money. It’s trying to incentivize companies to produce less pollution, since the only thing they care about is money, you have to make them “feel” pollution through money. It seems like the whole “system” probably needs some more teeth to force countries to make harder decisions and not just using it as a form of indulgences, it should be used as a fine/punishment. We’re well past the point of no return, but we should be getting more serious about this.
100% - even as satire the cartoon in OP misses the mark. The only people I've seen paint carbon credits that way in the US tend to vote for the party of climate change denialism, so tend to be about as well informed and truthful as you'd expect. So it's a pretty good zinger if the person reading it doesn't actually know the intent behind carbon offsets.
Crux, Crux, et non est crux
Not nearly as funny as Scott Adams!
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It says "Goddard-Gadd"
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