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I do not approve of nazis, I fight against them.
Except when you’re fighting against those who fight them. Like Israel.
Israel is a right wing extremist state, the last state where apartheid exists, a state annexing land out of greed, a state murdering people from another ethnicity on a mass scale (we call this genocide), committing war crimes and crimes against humanity like torture and bombing schools, hospitals, humanitarian aid and refugee camps. They do not fight nazis, they are the nazis.
And please note it's the Israeli state which talks and acts like a nazi. Not Jewish people in general, not every Israeli inhabitant. Just the state and anyone who supports the state.
Israel is a right wing extremist state
Large portions of Israel have been radicalized by enduring eight decades of genocidal violence from colonialist Arabs, funded by an extremist faith in Iran that holds the extinction of the Jews as a key requirement of imminentizing their eschaton. I don’t deny that. But post October 7, it’s hard to argue they’re overreacting to it. Maybe the Arab neighbors of Israel should try something besides mass killing Jews?
They do not fight nazis, they are the nazis.
No, they fight Nazis. Arab Nazis who torture Jews, Arab Nazis who hide in schools, hospitals, and refugee camps. Arab Nazis who turn humanitarian aid into missiles to kill Jews. The exact same Arabs who allied with Hitler in World War II (proven historical fact) and love him to this day.
You're calling the opposition of an extreme nationalistic state nazis.
But post October 7, it’s hard to argue they’re overreacting to it.
Apartheid isn't overreacting? Enclosing millions in a ghetto, limiting their food, water and electricity is not against human rights? Constantly stealing land is just fine? Stripping people of their rights is just? Torture is good for the right cause? Financing a terrorist organisation like Hamas to continue crimes against humanity isn't wrong?
Except for the concentration camps, they do everything exactly as nazi Germany did. Putting everyone in ghettos, stripping them of their rights, denying them in shops and public places, steal everything from them, torturing them, falsely imprison them without cause or trial, etc. But instead of concentration camps they bomb schools, hospitals, aid workers, refugee camps. They cut them off from drinking water, food transports, electricity. When you find Israel just in their crimes against humanity, during and/or before the war, you're no better then Hitler himself.
Please note I'm not pro Hamas. They are terrorists. But they are a product of the years and years of oppression, apartheid and humanitarian crisis created by the Israeli state.
There is no right or wrong here. There is only wrong and millions of innocent civilians (on both sides but mostly on the Palistinian side).
Apartheid isn't overreacting?
To Oct 7, when thousands of Palestinians streamed over the border to rape, murder, and steal from the Jews?
How could apartheid be an overreaction to that? How could anything short of the complete extinction of Gaza and all living there be anything but an underreaction? If Mexicans did the same thing to Arizona we’d deploy nuclear weapons on Mexico City. Israel, to its immense credit, is more merciful than any other nation on Earth. And Gazans remain the least grateful people alive.
How could apartheid be an overreaction to that? How could anything short of the complete extinction of Gaza and all living there be anything but an underreaction?
What the actual fuck dude. Seriously. Please go and seek help.
Why should antisemitic genocidal rapists and murderers get to live?
We hung Nazis for what they did. Arabs get a pass?
How could apartheid be an overreaction to that?
Apartheid has been going on for years and years now. Just like the rest of the oppression and locking people in a closed off ghetto. Its not a reaction to Oct7. Oct7 is a reaction to apartheid (which was a terrorist act which I condemn).
But besides that, you argue that racism, stripping people of their human rights and identity for an entire group of people is fine when a small group of terrorists commit a terrorist attack?
Crimes against humanity are never fine. No matter what happened. When a few commit a terrorist act, or do whatever horrible thing possible, that still shouldn't justify to become a monster yourself in general, but especially not to thousands of innocent civilians.
The reasoning of "yeah but look what they did" was the reason nazi Germany justified deporting jews to Auschwitz. It's the reason why the US invaded and completely wrecked Afghanistan. It's the reason Russia invaded Ukraine and defends it's war crimes. It's the reason for the ethnic cleansing by Israel and why they refuse to cease fire.
Never justify horrible acts like war crimes and crimes against humanity by saying "but look what they did" because crimes against humanity and war crimes do not have an asterisk or ammendment saying "except when-".
Apartheid has been going on for years and years now.
Yes, in fact it’s been going on for quite a bit fewer years than the Arabs of Palestine have been trying to commit genocide against the Jews. If you don’t think Oct 7 is somehow a brutal act of terrorism by a people who deserve apartheid (at least) as a response, then you can look to the one before that, the one before that, the one before that, and so on and so forth all the way back to the first Arabs invading Judea.
The Jews of Israel have lived with the Palestinian desire to mass-murder them a lot longer than I would. No more merciful a people than Israelis; no more ungrateful a people than Palestinians.
The reasoning of "yeah but look what they did" was the reason nazi Germany justified deporting jews to Auschwitz.
If Jews had, en masse, instituted a pogrom of Germans then the camps would have been justified. But it was the reverse that was true. But the Arabs have been torturing, enslaving, and killing Jews since the first day they colonized Judea.
Clearly you have no clue of what has been going on the past 100 years over there and your sources of information are clearly propaganda as your statements are false.
If Jews had, en masse, instituted a pogrom of Germans then the camps would have been justified.
You claim there is a justifiable reason to have concentration camps. Because of people like you, concentration camps have been able to exist. Have you ever been to one? I have, to several including Auschwitz. I believe you are a danger to society, I hope you will never hold any position of power.
You support and justify crimes against humanity so there is no reason for me to continue this conversation any longer.