Capitalist will literally salt the Earth if they persevere the alternative is a slight move towards socialism.

"Externalities" are a capitalism thing because it externalizes the environment and many other things for the sake of perpetuating an abstract economy based on capital accumulation. An economy based on rational use of resources wouldn't externalize those things in the first place.

I did a two-year post-doc in a climate modeling lab at a major research university studying exactly this proposal. I have peer-reviewed publications on it. I cannot overstate what a bad idea it is. It would kill--at minimum--tens of millions of people, and set off the worst refugee crisis the world has ever seen as global precipitation patterns shifted--and those are the effects we know about. Once we start it, we will have to run it indefinitely or incur absolutely apocalyptic snap-back temperature increases.

Still, I will be absolutely flabbergasted if we don't implement this sometime in the next 15 years. It's cheap, effective at controlling temperature increases, and will let us continue to kick the can down the road for meaningful climate action.

I remember back around maybe...15 years ago or so? There was a lot of fearmongering about the Bad Guy Countries potentially doing this because they want to be "lazy" and don't want to invest in green energy.

Well, now that China is the #1 producer of green energy, suddenly all the capitalist bootlickers are insisting we should scorch the sky Matrix style to own the commies.

By the way, Ive been saying for years that they are 100% going to do this shit. They are going to keep the pedal to the floor on carbon emissions until it becomes impossibility to ignore any longer and then sell this as a magical technocratic solution. This is going to be a liberal consensus position in like ten years

yeah, we should totally reduce and disrupt the constant source of clean, pure energy streaming into the earth which drives the biosphere's staggering complexity, so we can keep burning the concentrated, dirty pockets of stored and buried sunlight from millions of years ago that is overheating the place and polluting our bodies, air, land, and water.

I suppose if I was this much of a ghoul, I'd also be deathly scared of socialism because there's no way someone who's ready to gas the whole planet is only a Nazi about this one specific thing.

Note that the "negative externalities" are implied and not listed.

We don't know who struck first—Us, or Them—but we know that it was Us that scorched the sky.

In tech

Are you sure you and your lot aren't just trying to sell us something? I think people forgot there's other smart people in the world other than folks in the tech industry.

Death penalty for tech dipshits who would rather do geofascism than ecosocialism.

They genuinely think some bazinga movie plot involving aerosols and asteroid mining is a more realistic way of fighting climate change than overcoming capitalism

global socialist government that dictates emissions policy... has a lot of negative externalities, too.

Behold: apocalyptically terminal treatbrain. "DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DOOOOOOOOOOO" screamed by the techbro clowns that are already burning the circus tent we all live in.

This is a whole ass type of guy all by himself.

"Negative externalities" jfc.

The capitalists are conspiring to block the sun like they're Mr. Burns 😭

Maybe dudes in tech aren't the people you should be discussing altering the climate with, maybe climate scientists? Idk just a fucking thought

Maybe this is below criticism, but saying "all the smart people I talk to in tech" has no clear difference from "all the people I agree with who I talk to in tech" when you're making an argument like this.

Socialism is when people try to prevent climate change, and the more climate change they prevent, the more socialister it is, and when they prevent it completely, that's communism. And it will kill a million bajillion people.

Blue skies? A sacrifice this guy and his friends in tech are apparently willing to make -, for all of us

Using the term “second order” here is cringe.

It makes sense when you’re talking about quantifiable, rigorously defined second order effects

It doesn’t just mean subjectively unimportant or lower priority.

This guy writes like he just discovered these words a few minutes ago and is trying to use them everywhere he can.

This is just robotic engagement farming, right?

Like, who actually goes on Twitter to write about what they care about? Honestly why does it exist lol

Entire chatgtp data centers dedicated to clapping like seals and propping up techbros egos.

Treating the symptoms while ignoring what caused them to begin with

I'm sure endless, systemically driven greed won't cause any other issues, no sir. And that's presupposing his theory would work to begin with

Anyone who says 'externalities' belongs in prison

Smarts don’t make you an expert on climate dynamics, and I don’t trust some guy on Twitter to be a good judge of “smart”. The phrasing is pretty telling though “smart people I know”, vs “people smarter than me” means he’s including himself among the “smart people” pushing for this.

I've seen the aerosol hes talking about that is a very temporary solution and pointless for longterm if you don't cut emissions.

Ehehehe stupid commie you had a spelling mistake in the title, your argument is forfeit, now come burn the planet with me

These guys read a Neal Stephenson book and make it their whole personality.

Am I wrong or is aerosolized sulfates just their choice because of emissions restrictions whining and all it does is seed clouds?

If cloud seeding wasn't controversial already we could seed clouds without that shit

does the us actually have the means to do it tho

should "persevere" be "perceive" in the title?

Imagine if we created a better world instead of actively worsening the already shitty state of it. That would be horrible (I assume - it's the only thing that would explain how we behave ... thats it we are just evil assholes).