NCD Mod gets own community banned from an instance, proceeds to ban anyone who mocks him for it
NCD Mod gets own community banned from an instance, proceeds to ban anyone who mocks him for it
Non Credible Defence?
I've seen some cool posts on there but parodying the death of millions and destruction of prosperity certainly would attract people of that nature.
I kept an eye on it because it’s cool to know what the buzz is with the more mainstream memes about wars and whatever. Weapons systems I haven’t heard of, military secrets being leaked on gaming forums, I wouldn’t post or comment there but monitoring it isn’t stupid if I’m browsing All. A little crass about people dying but I thought it’s all an in-joke.
When things started escalating here in Lebanon I was absolutely baffled how the average poster there had zero nuance or interest in questioning whatever they considered to be the status quo. I saw people arguing and getting banned in the comments over “supporting terrorism” while I was out dealing with the very civilian damage we are experiencing. You can check my post history for more on that, my comments detailing the situation feel like screams into the void and I’m less and less motivated to write about my experience.
I never posted or commented anything in NCD because how could I possibly say “Whether you consider this person a terrorist leader or not, their tactics were more pragmatic than potential successors and this will likely lead to prolonged conflict” on a page like that. A message that ostensibly should be very clear on a conflict discussion board.
I think it’s mostly Europeans and Americans fetishizing their fancy weapons, never having been on the receiving end of them. But I have, and therefore my opinion doesn’t matter, because I must be a terrorist.
The 'no politics' rule works against NCD insofar as it ignores that all defence policy is politics, and thus it leads to the mods enforcing a pro-status-quo viewpoint, intentionally or unintentionally.
Also, the mod team here on Lemmy seems to be of... lower quality. Not that I doubt that Reddit NCD has had a rightward and pro-Israel lurch since the exodus.
Yeah. Generally, things that seem too 'serious' are removed, but it seems that internet drama is just noncredible enough to get mod approval and mod participation.
Good lord what a shit show.
I got banned, and then unbanned less than 10 minutes later. I had suggested that nuke should take a break and calm down. Not really a non-snarky way to say that without sucking up, so I just went for it, knowing what would probably happen.
NCD hasn't updated on piefed.social since then, so it looks like Rimu might be of the same mind as Ada on this. I don't blame either of them. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, honestly, the whole situation is gruesome enough that I'm thinking of migrating to one of the other NCD communities.
It's funny because he was wrong about the community being banned from the instance but he ended up getting it banned anyway by lashing out at the owner. Their comments towards people who criticize them are disgusting and rude, yeah PTB for sure hopefully that gets dealt with soon.
Honestly sh.itjust.works should really look into this community, mod abuse is not good for communities or platforms. Especially over crap like this, but until and unless they do I support Ada in her decision to ban the community from her instance, it sucks for the people on it but considering the mods are power-tripping it's for the best.
PTB
What does this mean?
Their comments are certainly rude, but I didn't see anything that I'd characterize as disgusting.
U/nuke erroneously believed that Ada was deliberately removing many of the posts from NCD, but it was actually because u/CDRMITTENS had been banned from blahaj.zone months ago and was one of their most prolific posters. Despite this misunderstanding, the fact remains that blahaj.zone can and does selectively remove content from NCD on the basis that it constitutes political extremism.
Nuke was overly rude and aggressive in their behavior, but this isn't really a case of mod abuse. They informed their subscribers that some community content is being removed by admins from a particular server, which is true and serves the community. Then they removed a bunch of comments for brigading and criticizing them, which was maybe a bit over the top.
This is not an ideal situation and better communication could have prevented it, but it's ultimately a minor issue. A more senior NCD mod has since restored many of the comments and reverted bans. Also, they have refederated with blahaj.zone already. Thank you to u/Shit for helping to resolve this issue.
PTB is a community term, they've got initialisms similar to Am I the Asshole on Reddit (and I'm the asshole for referencing that awful place), it means Power Tripping Bastard.
I'm extremely tempted to go to the Agora and propose de-anonymising the moderators names in the mod log but I really don't have time in the next few days to deal with the possible drama of that, lol.
It means Power tripping Bastard, means that the mod is power-tripping abd abusing their power as a mod to silence dissent or criticism, in this case their approval of racist memes conflating Palestinians and Hamas as the same thing.
Post Edit: I thought I was replying to a different thread so I wrote a hasty incorrect correction which was wrong because I thought my brain farted while I was writing my original comment.
Ultimately, I too support Ada's decisions in this.
Her users come first for her, which is something I can only fully respect.
Here I was hoping for some ambiguous drama, and instead no, it's just a mod starting an internet fight because he thinks he should have jurisdiction or something. Really disappointing, not juicy at all, smh
"Waiter, this drama is dry as a bone. I specifically asked for medium-rare."
What really blows my mind is he had the mod log shown to him coming from lemmy.world and still blamed Blahaj for it
You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him actually think
I respect and support Ada's decision to ban that person from the instance over a meme that conflates Palestinians with Hamas, and I respect and support her decision to ban that community from the instance over the mod's apologia of that type of content. It might seem like a downside for people who are on that instance but in all honesty most of the users and communities they ban there are better off not interacting with. Keep in mind that blahaj.zone is meant to be a safe-space instance for LGBTQ and marginalized groups, maybe not to the extreme and isolationist degree beehaw is but they still aspire to be a safe-space, and that means content from bad actors and malicious people will and should be banned and filtered out.
Honestly, I was against the ban of the whole community until Nuke doubled down and the other mods rallied around him. Now I'm much more sympathetic towards Ada's position.
And here I was of the general impression the user in question was just a bot that reposts the subreddit.
Pffffffft. PTB. (The mod, not Ada; Ada is being sensible as usual.)
Editing because this person runs a community designed to target people and is not posting in good faith.
The ongoing 'I want to die in a nuclear war' joke is definitely tongue-in-cheek Millennial/Zoomer suicidality. It got intermittently banned on old NCD whenever it got out of hand. I'm guessing from the mods' reaction to the latest fiasco that no such restraint will be exercised on shitjustworks NCD.
Editing because this person runs a community designed to target people and is not posting in good faith.