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Trump said to lift all military restrictions on Israel on 1st day in office according to reports

www.foxnews.com Trump said to lift all military restrictions on Israel on 1st day in office according to reports

President-elect Donald Trump’s promise could lead to a 60-day cease-fire, allowing Israel to suspend hostilities until military support resumes under the new administration.

Yeah, both sides amiright?

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Yes in this very specific case of genocide, both sides.
There were and are no restrictions from Biden/Harris. They did not stop any weapons or stop giving any money. Their 30 day deadline for food trucks passed and they did nothing. They've already given basically the maximum they could. The only difference in this specific case of genocide between the two is one won't apologize after doing it. They were both still going to do it
- There are very literal restrictions with Biden.
  
  Name one.
  
  You could just read the article but here it is:
  Currently, U.S. restrictions include an embargo on a certain weapons shipment and limitations on various combat-related equipment, even if they do not involve explosive ordnance. This embargo has impacted Israel’s defense capabilities, especially as the military now contends with active fronts in both Lebanon and Gaza, requiring strict control over ammunition and supply use.
  
  Oh just nebulous things that could be anything. It's almost like the only restriction on military aid is stuff we don't give to anyone.
  That reminds me of another Fox News hit, "The mobile WMD labs could be up here in the north, (generally waves hand over northern Iraq), or over here in the west, (tosses a finger towards the western deserts), or they could be hiding in baghdad, That's why we need to go in there and find them!"
  Narrator: There were no mobile chemical weapon labs.
  So I say again. Name one actual restriction. One thing Netanyahu has asked for and not gotten.
  
  I literally did, from the article you’re commenting on but didn’t read.
  Don’t try to move the goalposts hear.
  
  No you literally haven't. That's some speculative bullshit. I want what I asked for. One example of something that was denied to the Israelis. Not Fox News dithering about possibilities.
  
  It’s an example straight from the article.
  You asked for one thing now you’re putting on other qualifiers.
  
  It's a quote from the article. It's not an example. It's the same as saying there are laws in the US that do things. It's the vaguest non answer possible.
  
  Name a "certain weapon" and how it is an enforced policy change.
  I ask because I already know that there are no real restrictions, Israel has received constant deliveries of the weaoons it uses to commit this genocide.
  
  No there aren't. Biden even bypassed Congress to get them more weapons faster.
- Why do people seem to believe all the pertinent information surrounding this issue is unclassified and available online?
  You’d have to believe that to say shit like this.
  
  The war crimes and laws about not sending military aid to war criminals are very public.
  
  My comment is responding to the comment about restrictions.
  
  There's also the fact that Netanyahu has been very vocal anytime something was delayed even just logistically. I highly doubt we're providing any material that's super secret.
  
  I’ll direct you to my first reply in this thread.
  
  Trust us he's totally imposing restrictions behind the scenes,
  
  I'm not saying that so please stop putting words in my mouth.
  I'm saying there's very likely lots we don't know. If you don't believe there's lots you don't know about this, I think you're ignorant.
  
  I’m saying there’s very likely lots we don’t know.
  I see a man selling weapons that are being used in an ongoing genocide. I do not believe that something less dishonorable is going on in secret where there is even less public accountability.
  
  We're fully circular already. I'm done with this particular thread.
  
  You're expecting me to buy that Biden is better in secret on this issue than he is in public, but don't want to be called on it.

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