Introducing Proton CAPTCHA
Introducing Proton CAPTCHA
We developed our own CAPTCHA service to ensure it is secure, respects privacy, and optimized to be usable by everyone. Find out how it works.
At Proton, we’re always working on new and innovative ways to protect the privacy and data of the Proton community.
Yeah, I guess that’s nice. I do like Proton.
I’d love for Proton to focus on completing some current services and make them actually usable though.
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@DocBlaze @beta_tester been waiting for same. I’m not holding my breath. Paying full premium family service now but if we don’t get a proton drive app in the next year I’m going to move on to something else.
I do regret the timing of my Visionary, because from their posts it seemed like one would be able to use Drive both on Windows and Mac by now, but it’s still practically unusable on Windows and no where to be seen on Mac. I would have been better off waiting two years before upgrading to Visionary.
What basic things ?
Threaded conversations on mobile. Dedicated contacts management app that acts as your default contact app on mobile.
Fo christ sake, I can't even edit a calendar event on mobile if another participant is added to it.
There are a million things to polish.
Proton is becoming better every day
Often times is easier to push new services than to polish old ones
And how is that becoming better? Their mobile and desktop softwares aren't on par with anything free or paid, they work yes but they lack a of features that their own web app have; the calendar app, on iOS at least, is straight up useless; the mail app works but it lacks in basic features and it's ugly; they barely support Linux; their own drive software lacks a lot of features that other drive services - privacy oriented and with E2E - have.
Love my Proton Business plan.
Feels like releasing a new (privacy oriented) horse drawn buggy design just as automobiles are taking off
Captcha has already been extremely questionable for years, as there are open source tools to break em, and AIs emerging that can describe what's in images
Take as a case study RuneScape building custom captcha games during login to try and dissuade bots. It didn't work, the bots easily adapted to the new games
Google's reCaptcha no longer recommends any user interaction at all. The new methodology is using AI to wholistically examine user behavior/identity with as much data as possible
Basically, I think Proton wasted their time, and captchas are a dumb system. They added computational challenges, but they start easy and are pitched when image fails. So I'm not so convinced that they will work better than cloudflare
even if you're right, obsolete technologies usually hang around for way longer than they should. so this could still be useful in some capacity for the next 20 years, even if it is annoying and easily defeatable. kind of like putting a really shitty lock on something. It won't stop anyone determined, but it will stop 99% of people from opening it.
Problem is that this only matters for botters, and those are the guys who showed up with the bolt cutters
You are absolutely correct. CAPTCHAs are dead. Look at Cloudflare's Managed Challenge (turnstile) for the type of system that replaces CAPTCHAs. What a waste of time and resources, Proton.
Wireguard on Linux for Proton VPN and a Bridge for Calendar (or adding Calendar to the current Bridge) would be great for making current services better.
I would like searchable email content on mobile, calendar bridge, and a Drive that could actually sync my files between all my devices instead of just individually backup up each device to the cloud? The implementation of Drive is so strange to me I can hardly fathom the idea behind it. I must have used every other cloud drive under the sun over the years. No one has worked like Proton. Instead they have worked like expected.
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Proton is google as it should have been. Proton the white if you will.
This is awesome stuff. I like the direction Proton is taking of slowly adding services. I hope they get to build a web browser sooner. Hopefully not based on Chromium but Firefox (Gecko).
Complete what services?