6d ago

I'm just sayin'

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Honestly, the current situation is beyond double standards. The Republicans have free reign to more or less break any of their own rules and suffer almost no consequences. Meanwhile, literally anything a Democrat does is spun into multiple mutually exclusive conspiracy theories that their base and the media somehow manage to spout simultaneously.
- Not to mention leftists will latch onto it too and repeat the lie everywhere yet swear up and down that they voted for the Democrat even though they shit on them any time they open their mouth.
  
  lol, get lost troll

Well you're conveniently forgetting that Obama had the fucking audacity to ~~eat dijon mustard~~ ~~wear a tan suit~~ be black.
- And tan suit which is an anagram for satanic (well, almost…)
  
  satunit
- What a dick move of him!

If one of Obama's friends would've done a nazi salute behind the presidential seal, the Republicans would've lynched Obama on the lawn of the white house

Big Antichrist vibes. Would it have burned his hand? I guess will never know.
- You guys are overthinking it. Hand to small and weak to put on bible.
  
  or bible too big, make hand look even smaller.
- I think we can safely assume it would have. Why else wouldn't he want to touch Jesus Book?
  
  He already did during his last term.
  But he held it upside down, maybe that has some theological implications.

Sadly I think it would have been more than half. Personally I'd like less of the Bible in any of our swear ins, but Orange Hitler not doing it just keeps the process rolling forward.
- The person can choose what they swear on. He chose the bible, then failed to use it.

Whoever succeeds trump, (assuming that happens, and it's not Vance), should do the same thing, so we can maybe get rid of that dumbass tradition.
- "we separate church and state" Church throwing bibles at every god damn state and court event and making people swear on them.

Not to be annoying but it is in fact your business

He was probably afraid of getting struck by divine lightning or something like that if he touched a Bible while uttering the words with no intentions to follow them.

white ~~christian~~ supremacy
- Hell, even the racism and fake Christianity are just bones they toss to the base while doing their real business.
- Fascism will always find an out crowd
- White cis het male supremacy.

Did the orange turd or someone else do that?
- Orange turd.

He actually did take the oath without putting his hand on a bible and they did try to make a big deal about it.
John Roberts messed up the oath during the inauguration and they had to redo it later.
During the do-over there was no bible: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_inauguration_of_Barack_Obama

It is absolutely not a requirement to swear an oath on a bible, or even to have a bible nearby.
It just happens to be a longstanding custom in the USA. Many politicians take the oath on a bible just for the optics. DT, of all people, is all about optics. Dude probably wasn’t paying any attention, and surely winging his swearing given the last minute changes.
In any case, shouldn't everyone be applauding a president for refusing to touch a bible, tacitly denouncing religious contexts near government?
- Except when Trump was asked what his favorite book of all time was, can you guess what he answered?
  That's right. He said The Bible was his favorite book. You do understand the difference between actually believing in something, or just being a hypocrite and a con-man, right?
  It's not about whether it's a requirement or not. It's about a con artist revealing the con, and watching people like you handwave it away.
- Yeah aside from the whole using the Jesus vote to win thing.
  
  I thought he won because the handling of the day to day economics of the average citizen was in shambles, but yeah, clearly magic sky man holds more weight
- Bible is surely a disgrace and pathetic.
  It's understandable and I agree that no President should ever lay hands on that comic.
  I do believe 100% that Trump would've easily laid his hand on the book Mein Kempf.
- Yeah it is just a custom. But the point still stands.
- In any case, shouldn't everyone be applauding a president for refusing to touch a bible, tacitly denouncing religious contexts near government?
  Not if it's someone that got elected based on their support for the union of church and state. Now if someone like AOC got elected president and didn't swear on the bible, that would mean something
  
  AOC should have sworn in on a union contract. Maybe then she wouldn't have voted to protect the rail corporation from a union strike.
- Some odd books people have been sworn in on:
  Oh, The Places You Will Go - Dr. Seuss
  The Autobiography of Malcom X
  A Superman Comic
  
  Ugh, now you're going to make me look up who swore in under Dr. Seuss.

As if they actually cared about such matters. It would have only been just another excuse to stoke moral panic and outrage as red meat for their rabid base.
It’s exactly the sort of cynicism that, by design and intent, leads to apathy and fascism

It's the ceremony organizers' fault for neglecting to bring a bible small enough to put his hand on.

This is just the childish act of crossing your fingers when you make a promise. He didn't put his hand on the Bible because he isn't planning on presiding faithfully, and he has absolutely no intention whatsoever to preserve, protect or defend the Constitution of the United States unless it benefits him personally at the time.

Not half, but a veeeery loud quarter of it

openauth?

Is it possible he actually thinks he would go to hell if he did?
- The part that blows me away is that he is so forgetful he missed an easy marketing ploy. Dude endorsed a Bible and didn't call them up, ask for a % proceed and bring his own Bible to the inauguration, then put advertisements up for "Get your own copy of the God Bless the USA Bible, the official Bible Trump swore into office on"

What happened?
- Trump broke with tradition and didn't put his hand on the Bible during his inauguration.
  https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-stirs-curiosity-online-after-not-placing-hand-bible-during-oath-2025-01-20/
  One might expect to hear conservative Christians squawking about it, but they have been notably quiet.
- Can you not read?
  
  Maybe for a meme it has too many words

Is he not in the business of selling the Trump Bibles to schools? Bullshit is hurting my head.

Didn't that actually happen, and they had a private do-over?
- John Toberts (Chief Justice of the SC) misspoke one of the lines that Obama was supposed to say. Obama, being an intelligent man had rehearsed the speech and recognized that it was incorrect. Obama Said back the correct wording even tho Roberts said it wrong. They did re-do it privately for exactly the howler monkeys on Fox News who were shitting-in-their-hands happy about to start flinging poo.

I didn't know there were green sayings

Yeah but if AOC makes a gesture that looks a lot like a nazi salute, nobody cares about it. It's a double standard, but nobody actually thinks AOC is a nazi or was trying to evoke nazi imagery. Double standards aren't always automatically bad or wrong. They need to be considered in the context of the person and what they stand for.
- Dude, he did it 2 times, give me a break and best part is that he meant it, hence the 2 times salute. Cope harder
  
  Not only that, but Elon promotes and sponsors multiple reactionary political groups around the world, including the AfD
  
  Ok... Did you see the AOC video though? Imagine Elon doing that and tell me what you would think about it. It would look a lot different coming from him, and that's my point.
- Literal WW2 scholars have come forward and said that was unequivocally a Nazi salute. We have side-by-side comparisons that match the form and the timing. Everyone with an eye can tell what it is except for other Nazi sympathizers.
  Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
  
  I mean...
- You know what we call people who defend Nazis?
  Nazis
  
  You totally missed the point...
- Username does not check out.
- I like that strawman you built, it's so weak and flimsy a small breeze would knock it over.
  
  Straw man? I don't think you understood the point I was making...
- Show me a video of AOC doing a nazi salute two times in a row.
  
  Preferably with bare feet.
- Can you please show me what you are referring to and the context? Because the context of the event discussed was very clear. It wasn't a never do this educational situation. Dude just had to say, my bad it looked like that but I was caught up in the moment and meant to put my hand out with an open palm like Jesus in Rio but we instead accidentally kept them facing down.
  A lot of the issue stemmed from him doing it twice after supporting a far right Germany movement and not just saying my bad.
  
  Yeah that's my point. It has a lot more credibility as an accusation against Musk compared to when AOC did something very similar. Because nobody thinks AOC is a Nazi. It's a bit of a double standard, but so what?
  This is what I'm referring to. If you can find the video it really does look like a nazi salute, but nobody actually thinks that it is, in any way: https://x.com/APTeacher1754/status/1882043612122497239/photo/1

Obama put his hand on the Constitution. Maybe this is a sarcastic meme? I don't know
- Or maybe you are just a liar??
  When U.S. President Barack Obama took the oath of office Monday, he placed his hand on two Bibles.
  The first was the Bible used by former President Abraham Lincoln, the 16th president of the United States, when he took the oath for his first term in 1861. The second Bible was the so-called "traveling Bible" used by slain civil rights leader Martin Luther King, Junior.

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