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Anybody here use Asahi Linux?

What do you like about it?

What do you not like about it?

Is it a completely bonkers proposition to buy a refurbished M2 Mac only to wipe it and put Asahi on it?

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  • You've heard it several times, now, but once again: Asahi works really well for what it is, but it's definitely a compromised experience. For example, on my M1 Macbook Air I cannot plug in a USB-C dongle and then plug in an external monitor. The driver support just isn't there. I think if I had an Macbook Pro with a built-in HDMI port I would be able to use that... but alas, I do not.

    If you want to use macOS and then use Linux on the side now and again in a dual boot setup, sure. If you want to use 100% Linux on your computer... there are better supported options.

    Here is a table of supported features but it isn't really the full picture, because it doesn't give you a clear view of things like putting the computer on standby consumes more idle power than it does with macOS, or drivers for hardware video decoding don't exist, so all video is software decoded. The processors can do it really well, actually, but obviously it's more power-efficient when it's done by dedicated hardware.

  • I actually switched back to Asahi on my M1 Macbook Air this weekend, and while it works well enough for me to stick to it for now, I would definitely not buy Apple Silicon hardware for Linux next time. I'm running Fedora Asahi Remix on Gnome with Wayland for reference. Fingerprint sensor isn't working, microphone is "WIP" according to the feature table, etc. Battery life is significantly worse, especially standby, so if you use it for traveling a lot it's not that great. I might boot back into MacOS if I bring it with me on vacation honestly. It is also not nearly as "smooth". Scrolling stutters etc. Nothing that actually impacts the speed of what you do though. This is probably not an issue for most I would think, but for the Norwegian keyboard I had to manually edit the config to get access to the apostrophe: '. In general, it is a bit annoying that it has a different keyboard layout than every other computer I use.

    There can be some compatibility issues, Discord isn't or at least wasn't running on Linux Arm, but there are 3rd party clients that do. Games are probably also not great, although I can't say I have tested after the Vulkan update. Last time I went back to MacOS so I could play Balatro on vacation. Other than that I don't really use that many apps on my laptop, and haven't missed any.

    Then there is a Gnome specific quirk: touchpad scrolling is way too fast, and it isn't configurable in the settings. There are some "hacky" workarounds around, but they seem to be outdated and failed on me. For now I have just adjusted the scroll speed in my browser to like 20% of the default and it seems to work okay. You do kinda get used to it I guess. You can adjust scroll speed in KDE just fine, so if you prefer KDE that isn't an issue.

  • Asahi doesn't wipe macos by default (you can do it but it is an extra step) ; the Asahi install splits your system in two, and you can choose how much space to allocate to each.

    As an everyday distro, it's pretty much stock fedora with possibly a few missing niche software - think Bitwig if you're into that, you will have Ardour / Pipewire etc but not (yet) Bitwig, which is proprietary and would need them to compile for aarm64. But the amount of stuff available is astounding, and getting better by the day.

    Then it depends on your use case. For "general computing" it absolutely works, for more specialised stuff you should check beforehand. I use it as a DAW mostly, with the occasional Kdenlive bout of editing now and then. Oh, and Steam ! We have gaming now it works great. The install process is so smooth, trying it out is a 30 minute affair, tops.

    I'd ask the question of why a mac tho : I can't do without because of one macos soft I need IRL (QLab), and the very existence of Asahi allowed me to overcome my repulsion for apple products and buy the thing, heavily discounted. I'm 90% on the Asahi side, only rebooting on macos for live performances.

    They are competitively priced for what they are, but I don't trust them to be particularly solid nowadays. I hate the keyboard and the coldness/finish of the case, and find mine weighty. Also real-life use make them feel like a snappy i7, not some crazy fast supercomputer.

    So if you don't need a mac, it is not a straightforward proposition unless the price is right in regard to other available stuff. I complement mine with a Thinkpad BTW. I buy them secondhand super cheap, they last 3 or 4 years then I buy another.

    Best value ATM is a good specced Air model I believe (Weight, silence, battery life / but quite no outputs, especially no external screen through USB). People in the know says to avoid 8gb ram models, go for 16.

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