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how do I tell my boss that I am not studying for a certification he wants me to get in my own time?

I have to get certifications as part of my job and because all of my coworkers and I keep failing these really hard tests, we aren't allow to study during downtime on the clock. We were told to study on our own time.

Getting certs is part of what is required for me to get bigger raises and get promoted and all that jazz. I don't want to use my personal time for this. None of the people who are in this predicament do.

I have a meeting in a few days to discuss goals and I need to figure out how to tell my boss that using my own time for work shit is unacceptable.

I really like this job other than this one aspect of it and I don't want to make anyone mad, but I need to express my boundaries and all that

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  • At my last job I was asked to get a certain cert as one of my yearly goals. When I asked for time to study, I was told to do it on my own time. I said "If you want me to do this on my own time, clearly it is optional and I'm not doing it." and then I didn't.

    In my case there was no raise to be had from doing it though, so it was easier to refuse. Good luck!

  • "I don't feel it is in my personal benefit to spend my energy and time outside of work, chasing a end goal that will not favor me personally. This certificate was not a requirement for me being hired, and I am not being reimbursed for said spent time and energy. If this is something that the company is interested in pursuing, I am more than happy to continue working on it as long as I am reimbursed for my time. A chance at promotion with no compensation in current day, does not guarantee enough of a reward for it to be worth my time."

    Know your worth OP, companies will burn you time and time if they think they can. Don't learn the hard way like I did, or my grandfather did (he did a masters degree fully out of pocket because there was an increase in pay involved + a massive bonus, the removed the bonus and halved the increase in pay the year he graduated). It's a well known scam used by employers in specialized fields to avoid having to actually pay for training and certs.

    Additionally you may want to note that if they try to say that you need to cert to stay at the company, mention that in that case it's mandatory training and you are supposed to be paid for time spent, and if they refuse look into an employment lawyer for wage theft.

  • "Using my own time for work stuff is unacceptable to me, and I am prepared to quit this job and get a different one that doesn't ask me to work off the clock if you press this matter."

    Don't try to reason them into accepting your way of thinking, just state your position and what you're willing to do to pursue it

    Incidentally, if "I am prepared to quit this job" does not currently apply to you, you should not be having this conversation.

    e; partial_acumen had a way better answer

    “Using my own time for work stuff is unacceptable to me. It was not enumerated in the job listing when I was hired that off-clock unpaid work was required to keep this job and I am prepared to quit this job and get a different one that doesn’t ask me to work off the clock if you press this matter if the company terminates me for refusing to work unpaid off the clock I'd be happy to raise that with the Department of Labor for a case of wage theft.”

    e2; this is all assuming you're ok with losing this job and waiting through a lawsuit and several years to get what you're owed by this employer

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