If John Connor grew up in our era, Skynet would've won.

Because of all the mass surveillance...

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Skynet did win.
Conner led a rebellion, after the machines won. Terminator was an attempt to go back and squash the rebellion before it started.
By Terminator, the rebellion hadn't (yet?) been successful, and all it did was ensure the leader of the rebellion would be born. The second was an fight over ensuring/preventing the paradox caused by the first.
I didn't follow things after that, but, and I thought the second was not as good as the first so I gave up on the franchise; but in none that I saw was Skynet ever prevented. The fact that the third movie, which I didn't see, happened means that the MacGuffin in the second movie wasn't needed for Skynet to happen.
- I thought the second was not as good as the first
  That is a pretty rare take! Most consider it one of the examples where a sequel is better than the original (and T2 is considered one of the best action movies of all time).
  
  Yeah, dude is lost. T2 still looks like it was made in the last 5 years.
  
  It depends, Terminator was a very unique story and more of a horror/slasher movie than an action movie. I prefer the first one, but I didn't always.
  Terminator 2 is a fun action movie with heart. It's a very good movie, but it copies a lot from the original. That being said, it really pushes the boundaries of animation tech at the time, to the point where almost all the VFX still hold up.
  I also really enjoy The Sarah Connor Chronicals, because it goes pretty deep into an interesting time travel war that was set up by T2. Those three IPs are all very different from each other, and are all great stories. Everything else is basically a money grab.
- T3 portrays the actual moments of the rise of skynet, so even though I don't normally recommend it, for purposes of this discussion I wish you had seen it 😂
- I thought the second was not as good as the first so I gave up on the franchise
  The second was great. It's one of my favorite movies of all time.
  The Sarah Connor Chronicles was also okay but I don't consider it cannon.
  Everything else was just utter garbage, so yea, you aren't really missing anything. Except like the very very beginning of the 5th movie (Genisys), but once the opening sequence is over the rest of the movie is just garbage.
  But its still worth watching all the movies, so you can rewatch T2 and appreciate how great it is.
- That's not exactly right, by Terminator, the machines are losing the war. That's the reason they sent the Terminator back to find and kill Sarah Connor before John is born.

Unfortunately, if given the choice between having a Thunderhead AI or having a Skynet AI + Profits, the people in power would choose the latter.

I've gone down the rabbit hole hard a couple years back, and I must say, coming out the other end, surveillance integration and technological evolution aren't bad per se, l. The usage, or rather the effect to wich some people are using it is the problem.
- But if it exists, there will ALWAYS be those people who use it like this. Therefore, those people in my mind come packaged with the technology. So you CAN say this level of surveillance IS bad, because there will never be a time when it exists that it's not also being abused.
  
  To add to this, you should also remember that malicious hackers will always exist, and since most surveillance systems are made by the government, cyber security isn't their strong suit.
  
  Although I do respect the problem, and I accept there will always be a loose cog somewhere that could be exploited or abused, the fear o if is really sociaty/country based.
  If you live in a "decent-wish" country with a strong set of laws, and those laws put you under the microscope or you have something g to hide, I've come to the personal realization that it's not really as much of a problem as some make it out to be.

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