Trump again demands the annexation of Canada

The man wants to make deals, right, so make a deal. (warning I'm an American and know just enough about Canadian government to be dangerous)
"Join" the United States of America under these conditions:
Mexico can join too if they want
Each Province or State of joining countries becomes a State
The Constitutions of all countries apply only to the States it previously applied to while a new Constitution is written
The rules of the Constitutional Convention must be agreed to by both a majority of the joining States and 2/3 of all States
Please make this deal. Our governments are all too old to work great in this age but maybe we can forge a new design fit for the 2000s if we erase most of it and start fresh.

it sounds like he was writing this one handed.
- Oh he definitely wanks it to the idea of being a dictator

This reads like a creative writing essay written by a 12 year old kid.

Trump and Republicans trying to convince Canada they'll be treated well while they're pissing all over their colony in DC right in front of everyone.

Our Moron in Chief

The only people it makes sense to, for Canada becoming a US state, is the people in the USA.
We have land and resources they need, that we are happy to sell them, year over year.
Also, just to mention, the dairy thing? Yeah, that's on dairy products beyond a certain cap. It's there to encourage the use of Canadian dairy, instead of relying on foreign dairy.... You know, so our dairy farmers don't go broke.
Looking at the records, that import limit has been hit...... Carry the one....... Yeah, exactly zero times.
🖕
Sincerely,
Canada
- I'm in the US and making Canada a state makes 0 sense to me
  
  Canada would never be state. A territory of unending insurgency at best, until the US killed every last one of us.
  
  I guess he's also admitting to his desire of never having any new elections? As Canada would get like over 50 seats in the electoral college...
  
  That's fair. There's still sensible people in the USA.
  I was a little unclear before, the set of people who think this makes sense is entirely within the set of people in the USA. Which doesn't and shouldn't imply that all people in the USA believe that this makes sense.
  I apologize if there was any implication of lumping all Americans into the same pool of stupidity. That's an insult to you and I am sorry.
  Have a good day neighbor.

But not Puerto Rico, Guam, Washington DC (at least voting rights) or any other territory that has been essentially part of the country but probably is full of brown people so they don’t get the upgrade.

Saw this years ago and honestly couldn't be more fitting today.

What is actually wrong with this asshole!?
- He's a demented fascist. As in he literally has dementia.
- It would be faster to describe what's not wrong with him.
- He's a fascist

Thing is, Canada doesn't want to be apart of the USA. That should tell you a ton about the state of the union. Maybe adopt the advantages the Canadians have over us? Then they might be accepting of joining.
But Canadians are proud and love their country sovereignty. They will fight to protect it. Why start a war over nothing?
Fuck Trump and anyone who supports this stupid fuck.

The dumbest part of the 51st state nonsense, is Canada is very left leaning (compared to the US, even their right wing would probably be considered on par with Democrats here imo). Making Canada the 51st state would ensure he never wins an election again, but it seems like he's not too worried about the whole election thing moving forward. I guess when you gut CISA, and probably stole the '24 election you aren't worried about getting votes..
Also, the land mass of Canada would have to make it like 10 more states. It's already 10 provinces. It's just ridiculous.
- is Canada is very left leaning
  Idk, this election is very close for a Poilievre win. Pretty sure the Fox News propaganda machine would do its magic in no time.
  
  I don't think anyone there wants to abandon their free healthcare, but you never know with these smooth brain conspiracy people.

we should increase export taxes on all fronts to the US, until they agree to stop this bullshit 51st state crap etc.
- Automatic export tax for the US goes up by 100% each time their Orange Mussolini or one of his underlings says it.
- I think there should be a ratcheting structure, like an additional 5.1% everytime it's mentioned publicly by his regime.

The only thing that makes sense is for Trump and Musk to take a rocket car to Mars.

Fuck you Trump

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- Also, !canada@lemmy.ca

A new poll suggests few Canadians are open to President Donald Trump’s repeated pitches for Canada to become a U.S. state, though interest in it rises among Conservative supporters and those living in Alberta.
- as an albertan,
  sorry
- Because they're giving into Russian propaganda
  
  Russia is fighting in a war against the world and nobody cares.
- I recently met two Albertans out here in South Korea at a bar. They were on the other side of the bar from me, and when they walked past, I greeted them as an Ontarian and offered to shake their hands. They both declined the handshake and proudly announced, "We're not on the same team."
  That was a few weeks ago. I'm still disturbed by it. I knew Albertans had a reputation because of the politicking there. But I hadn't realized it would be so blatant. That same night, two South Africans happily asked me my thoughts on Trump, and I was perhaps too honest in my first statement, and they grew upset with me and insisted he was good for Canadians and South Africans, both.
  I left the bar not long after. Haven't seen those four come back, so there is a bright side to the story, at least.
  
  Hope those 4 are already on their planes home after their bosses realized they hired trash.
  If you have to share space with them again, may I suggest bringing up what it's like being a "migrant worker in Korea"? Groceries are a little different, you miss your oven maybe, the usual foreigner small talk, but keep using the term migrant worker (or temporary foreign worker, for those racist Canucks). When they correct you with the term "expat" - as their beliefs dictate they must - ask them to explain the difference and don't let up when they deflect. Insta explody heads every time.
  I'm really sorry that happened to you (and anyone else in the bar who had to witness it). Even more sorry that Korea keeps getting the dregs whose only marketable skill is their ability to speak their own language. Guaranteed, each of those assholes has at least 1 dramatic story about how really racist Koreans are against white people though (like, my coworkers weren't impressed that I can eat hot sauce, a woman wouldn't give up her seat on the bus when it was was obvious my feet hurt, nobody cares I can do the Gagnam Style dance, where's the Korean wife I was promised, etc).
  
  They refused to shake your hand because you are from Ontario? What the heck.... they need mental health care.
  
  Lol they should fucking stay in South Korea. They are definately in the minority, it's a larger minority then most of Canadas opinion but goddamn they are still a minority. Should have told them to never fucking come back
- Stop both siding this nonsense.
  
  That's not what is happening. I know it's upsetting that there are people who believe differently than you do. That's what this article is about: that there exist people with some truly upsetting opinions, and furthermore, that we know a bit about their demographic make up.
  
  You should look up what that word means

ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA,
My company:
Has two shops 1 in Canada and 1 in the US; US shop now solely handles all American related jobs while Canada handles any job globally, besides the US.
Real smart play here ol trump
- "Let's kill all the jobs now for a few new kinds of jobs that probably won't come to fruition" -Trump, American genius.

Trump became President and I decided to start the process to get guns.
- Conservative Americans in shambles reading this as they find out that we do Infact own guns in Canada and are proud to own them. We just don't get all fucking pussy about not being able to own fully automatic ones with 50 round magazines lol.
  
  Liberal American here, for a long time conservatives here have miscalculated how well armed many of us are. The anti-gun crowd (not to be confused with gun control) are just the vocal minority on the issue, giving the impression that liberals hate guns. My gun safe begs to differ, and I own more guns than any conservative I know.
- Don't forget to practice regularly.
- Say it louder; get disqualified from gun ownership. You're not allowed to own guns because you think one day you might shoot people with them.
  
  I GOT A GUN TO SO I CAN HUNT ANIMALS BECAUSE LEARNING TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE AND SHARING FOOD IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO GET THROUGH THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

He's gonna fucking invade, isn't he?
- It's difficult to invade when in a recession and you have to deploy military against your own citizens to protect Tesla buildings.
- The USA needs congressional approval to officially go to war against another sovereign nation. Like with Afghanistan or Iraq. BUT Republicans control the house and Senate, and sure if they're that fucking delusional they could vote for it. But with that being said, it would 100% rip America apart and they fucking deserve it. Not only would we not put up with that shit and I would gladly shoot any foreign soldier on our land, it would mean the Russians getting exactly what they wanted.
  Americans reading this, GET YOUR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER or you or your friends are going to start fucking dying on our fucking land for no other reason than a fat orange fucks vanity. You will be ostracized by the developed world and I for one will never fucking forgive you.
  
  As an American who has avoided joining the American military because I've been afraid of dying in a war, I'm almost leaning into wanting to join the Canadian military at this point. As I'm much less afraid of dying now that I'm nigh suicidal and Canadian sovereignty sounds like a viable cause to actually fight for.
  
  Remember kids, we're one of the reasons the Geneva Conventions exist. A surrendering soldier is a dead one.
  
  They voted for this. So I don't have any sympathy for them saying Trump doesn't represent them. He does. They go on and on about how they're the greatest country in the world, and how their government is 'of the people, by the people, for the people'. They're more responsible for the actions of their government than any other nation is for theirs.
  And the American mentality is that their pride will never let them admit if they're wrong. So even though they may know that talks of annexation and taking away our country are beyond offensive, they can't say it. They have to say that it's for some greater good that no one else can see, even if they know it's BS. But the problem is, short of NATO putting troops in our country to help fight off an invasion, I don't know what would stop the US from just trying to take whatever they want in the name of 'freedom'. And the funny thing is, on the Cato Human Freedom Index, which measures a person's person, economic and civil freedom, we rank higher than the US. We're #11, and the US, the leader of the free world, is #17. So how are they the 'freest nation' in the world? Why would we downgrade ourselves by joining them? We wouldn't. No one would. Unless it was by force.
  I've said this before, and I meant it then; the mentality of the US is that they're basically a r***** telling their victim that if they lay down and let them (USA) have their way with them, they won't get hurt. THAT's the US right now. They're our neighbours, but they're NOT our friends. And they probably never were. They just finished hurting other nations, and decided to turn their attention to us.
  
  Previous presidents have famously committed acts of war without the consent of congress. Including assassinations and drone strikes on civilians.
- No, he’s not. Even if he could get congressional approval, which is highly unlikely, the military would have to comply with the order. The likelihood of that happening, I can’t even fathom.
  He’s just a fat ass blow hard making noise.
- The National Post is a US billionaire owned right wing propaganda rag that most Canadians wouldn't wipe their ass with. If they're saying this it's a warning that should be heeded.
  https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/braid-invading-canada-would-spark-guerrilla-fight-lasting-decades-expert-says
  We are a large, rugged country with huge areas to hide in full of large rugged people with guns.
  
  We are a large, rugged country with huge areas to hide in full of large rugged people with guns.
  Okay, but, so? We're still occupied. People still died. Survivors are still traumatized. If it gets to the point where we're living in caves on the escarpment and doing guerilla raids on Hamilton, WE HAVE ALREADY FUCKING LOST EVERYTHING OF IMPORTANCE. Get guns, fine, but I'll be filling out my application for refugee status.
- He clearly wants Canada, but it's not clear he wants it that bad. If he thinks more expensive electricity is a nasty move he's probably not too hot about stuff and people blowing up.
  I suspect the next few months will be a lot like the past one for Canada. Not better or worse.
- Looks like. All the signs are there and steps have been taken in preparation. The forcing of Canadians to register and get finger printed in the next 30 days was the icing on the cake. Now we wait and see how this unfolds.
  
  Canada is doing some stuff as well. here is the official govt release about the move.
  I’m no economist but here’s the best explanations
  I read so far about what Canada is doing with this move (post-Carney’s arrival I might add).
- I don't see how he could. Too many people in the U.S. like Canada, the domestic support would be near nill.
  Maybe if he had 6-10 more years to drum up support.
  
  A lot of people in the US will say they don't support it, and will speak out against it, but when the forces deploy, the American people won't do anything to stop it. They won't stage walkouts, or take actions that will cripple their economy at home in protest, because it will cause them inconvenience and pain.
  They'll just say they're against it, that they're morally outraged, and will offer 'thoughts and prayers'. Nothing more.
  
  The problem is this harmful and terrifying idea of annexing Canada will remain even after trump is gone. Vance is a young dude, him or whoever is the successor will advance Trunps policies and priorities, after the next president even. Canada needs to shift away from the US long term.
- Is it bad that I want him to try?
  Historically, the US has never acquired territory by force, and even then Emperor Clementine would need a 2/3 majority vote in the Senate to ratify and prove the annexation was legal, which I doubt he'll get.
  F*ck around and find out, as it were.
  
  Historically, the US has never acquired territory by force
  Fucking What
  Was your historian a rabid white supremacist who pretends none of the Indian Wars happened, much less the Mexican or Spanish-American Wars?
  
  Yes, it's bad. We'd lose. Maybe they'd lose too, but if so it's going to involve Taliban-like timelines and Afghanistan-like living conditions that whole time.
  
  Ya I want him to try as well. I am so fucking sick of republicans and magats dragging down the entire human race. Can you imagine what the world would be like if bush didn't steal the election from al gore? No war in the middle east, probably would have resulted is way better relations between countries all around the world. Would have resulted in more prosperity for everyone. Would have been a massive coordinated effort to fight climate change. They'd probably have healthcare by now. To this day republicans have been hell bent on destroying the world. I hope they come to Canada. Wiping them out would be the highest possible purpose my life could ever serve. Even if I could only take out one of those magat freaks with me, it would be worth it. Lets fucking go, ill be ready.
  
  Even if he fails, our quality of life would significantly decrease. Not really wanting to become an insurgent and get my brains blown out by a delta force operator or something. Not saying we should back down in any case, but the prospect of an invasion like that is scary af.
  
  I also want him to try, mostly because I think that may finally be the straw that gets someone to successfully snipe him. All it will take is some pissed off hosier with better aim than the last guy.
  
  What about all the native land, and the Mexican-American war?
  
  I dunno, is it bad that you've brainwashed yourself and are now actively radicalizing yourself? It's a judgement call.
  
  Yes, because innocent people will die.

We like our women with bodily autonomy and with the right to choose.
We like our right to protest without the fear of being jailed and deported.
We like our heads of state to be respectful and respected on the world stage.
We like our right to privacy without surveillance, and our civil servants free from Krasnov’s oligarchs.
Most importantly, we like our beer to be unshittified!
Sincerely,
The Canadians who haven't already fallen victim to your propaganda.
- -We like our right to protest without the fear of being jailed and deported.
  Maybe you should tell our universities, corporations and the RCMP about this.
- Might be time for a EU expansion
- We're having a bit of trouble with the protest one but I like your spirit!

Won't someone assassinate this senile fat fuck?
- Ronald McDonald has been trying every damn day.

Honestly, Canada should shut down their border to the US period… I wish this could happen, but I feel it is unrealistic.
- And get all our fucking data off Azure and AWS servers already. The fact we did this in the first place has bothered me since day 1. I don't care if the data centres are in Canada, they're owned by a foreign company and "trust me bro" isn't a security policy.
- I'm for it. It will hurt, but we'll manage.

Fuck off you demented old fool.

So we charged them 25% more for our electricity and his response is to charge his own citizens 25% more??
Wow
- He just really likes raising taxes.
- Russia's objective isn't tariffs -- it's to splinter/decouple international coordination and cooperation amongst western nations.
  So, yeah. The faster Trump can accelerate that, the happier his boss'll be.
  Like the buy[local] type campaigns are most likely getting a bit of a bump from Russian propaganda agents -- even if they are 'real' sentiments to some extent too.
  
  Also, forgetting Russia for a moment, the ultra rich love this shit. They have enough real money to buy up all the smaller businesses. They love economic downturns like this, and it’s possible that Trump is simply a fanboy simp who is voluntarily taking Russian advice and example. It’s also important to say this because it means the stupid, zero-memory US citizens need to understand that it will continue even with Trump gone and even if Russia disappears.
  He’s not doing this because of blackmail, he’s doing this because he wants to.
  
  I think there's a plan to entertain the US with some conflict while Russia does some shit so it can't intervene later on. Their only true opposition as far as tech goes is the US army so it makes sense to disable it. I also have a feeling part of this is an attempt to normalize the invasion of other countries. And what better way to accomplish it all than to push the US out of NATO so the former Soviet countries are easy pickings for Russia.
  It's like watching the Kremlin call the shots at this point. What Trump is doing makes no sense without thinking What Would Putin Do?
- What’s that flushing sound I hear? Oh, it’s just the US economy.
- He'll raise taxes on Americans again too, if Canada doesnt shape up!

80-year-old angsty teen... how can anyone take this man child seriously?
We don't want to be the 51st state. The idea repulses us, actually.
Elbows up, guys!
- Unfortunately, too many Americans did, so now the rest of us have to
  
  The dipshits that voted for him didn’t take him seriously either, they just wanted to fuck over the left, who they’ve been told is a enemy and threat for the last 25 years on Fox and AM radio. The other group that didn’t take him seriously were the ones who sat out or protest voted.
- Elbows up!
- how can anyone take this man child seriously?
  Trumpy's cultists will take him serious. Those cultists are going to be a problem.

No one wants to be america. People want to be human beings that are able live as human beings. People don't want to be pawns to a machine that sucks humanity and souls from living bodies.
- Am American. Can confirm, would really like to be something else.
  
  Same. Like, damn, I'm a queer leftist woman who takes an SSRI. This administration wants me in a camp for sure and I would happily change nationalities if it were possible. I'm rooting for the Canadians (and the rest of the world that isn't insane), except PP and his ilk.
- Americans don't even want to be American
  
  Am American, can confirm.
  
  It's true. It feels like the only place on the planet that rewards being that ignorant and hateful lout at the party who thinks compassion is some type of gay sex.
- It’s funny how mericans are always like ‘I’m 1/8th Irish and 2/3 German’ as if they are a breed of dog
  
  I went through my ancestry last week with the hope I'd have something to grant me citizenship elsewhere. My dad's side went back 6 generations and I still didn't find anyone outside the US. My mother's was 5 generations before I hit Austria and Germany.
  
  Better than being American?
  
  Do Canadians not do that? I'd have thought so considering Canada has had waves of settlers much like the US; but I've not met many Canadians, so I wouldn't know.

I will shortly be declaring a National Emergency on Electricity within the threatened area. This will allow the U.S to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada.
This shit is ominous. This demon is ready to invade and take control of the Québec-Windsor corridor.
- Yeah well, if he thinks he'll win long term against Québec, he's not ready for reality 😂
- I think Ontario has already paused the Export tax unfortunately. But I would absolutely call his bluff. An attack on Canada would mean a full-blown article 5 crisis before Trump has all of the cards that he wants. While he might be that stupid. Others in his administration aren't.
  Just in case, a good show from Carney would be to deploy the military to the area because of an increased threat of terrorism.
  
  He can’t attack a nato member
- Then it’ll be FLQ 2 electric boogaloo
- He’s just like Putin, he won’t do shit.
  
  Im pretty sure Putin did shit.

The more I think about this, the more I unironically think it is a good idea. Canadians hate Trump. Give each province electoral votes and representatives equivalent to those of Wyoming based on population, +2 senators each. Let's break up California into 67 Wyoming-sized states, while we're at it.
- What makes you think they'd give us voting rights? You never heard of Puerto Rico?
  
  Federal representation comes with statehood. Puerto Rico regularly rejects statehood.
- Fuck no. Never i don't want it, fuck that noise

It's just an old person yelling at his tv (phone).
There is no weight behind it, even if he is the President. His job is to sign here and smile for the cameras. Nothing more. He doesn't make policy or have original thoughts, he just signs it.
- There should be no weight behind DOGE's actions either. And yet here we are.
- It's a " won't someone rid me of this meddlesome priest" issue. It's normalizing it, which is dangerous

Bring it the fuck on yam tits. Lets fucking go. Send in your cultist freaks I can't wait to blow some yank limbs off.

When is this fat fuck gonna get it through his head that we will never be a part of the US, and there's nothing he can do about it?

Old man shout at canada... again

I like to keep my pension and EI benefits thank you very much.

I've never been so viscerally irritated in my life. ELBOWS UP

Trump is desperate to be a part of Canada, huh?
- Someone else said musk is prob forcing him to do it because he want to be the next president. Since he has canadian nationality he'll be able to gun for president.
  Kinda crazy guess, but they are crazy so 🤷‍♂️

Is it really a "longtime tariff" when it was implemented a week ago? I guess when you have the memory of a goldfish...

I’ll cherish Trump when he’s 6 feet underground eating dirt for eternity + a day.
Hopefully this afternoon.

Lol at there no longer being a border problem. How exactly does this change ANYTHING about guns and fentanyl crossing between Canada and the US? And whatever immigration problems Trump is complaining about would be completely moot if suddenly the entire country are now forced to become US immigrants.
- Because in that syphilis riddled brain, the orange-blunder has had the brain-shart concept slip out of the diseased sections and into what passes for a consciousness, that by only having a state line, there is no border, and so he will have solved "the border crisis". This is not a rational human being we're dealing with, it's a geriatric puppet-dictator who very likely has some form of degenerative brain condition.

This broadcasts his insecurities about being clueless how the economy or anything works, and has surrounded himself with yes men idiots that can't even bail him out of this hole he dug himself. A big tell is he is so pissed he is giving them over 4 wks to lift their electricity premium.
As an American I say Canada should just go the "we don't bargain with terrorists" approach and just cut the electric today. Call the bully's bluff.
- Sad thing is is Ontario has already taken the surcharge away, because he is going down to DC to get the shake down.
  I hope he comes back and just turns the power off.
  
  Ford is loving every minute of his US media tour. I hate that he’s our spokesperson down there though.

This is the stupidest thing ever. If he really wants a 51st state then Puerto Rico is right there and wants to gain statehood.
- He wants our resources, PR can't help there.

Narcissistic abuser tactics, as usual. "I'll be so good to you, babe, the ~~beatings~~ tariffs will stop if you become my ~~wife~~ 51st state."

Canada will be waiting for you fuckers!
- I like to remind my fellow Americans who think Canadians are push-overs that the Nazis feared fighting Canadians more than any other Allied force because of how much more relentless they were on the battlefield.
  
  Canadians are nice, then we’re not. We are savage AF.
  
  And we've had a few months to think up new ways. Come get it.
- Elbows up!

Cherished. Hah.
- I'll cherish commiting war crimes if it escalates.
  
  We’ll invent some new Geneva suggestions. It’s not a war crime if it’s the first time.

What are the protocols/powers involved in declaring something a national emergency? Like what decision power does the president gain in that scenario?
EDIT: This site seems to cover a lot of the benefits gained and what protections are in place to limit overreach, but given the current state of affairs I can’t imagine why Congress would reign in the abuse.
- The national guard, on the Canadian Border perhaps, nearest the manufacturing and farming corridor of the neighbor he has been openly threatening to annex, in one of the most heavily populated areas in the country with access to be the largest volume of fresh water in the world...

Dear Trump Cabinet members,
The earlier you 25th this guy, the better chance you have of keeping your cronyism going for the foreseeable future.

No one wants this, this old diapered man needs to go back into the home

He can't take a clear 'no' for an answer. No wonder he's a convicted rapist.

I'd rather the West Coast become part of Canada.
- I think they should secede and form their own union and then we can ally with them at least as close as we allied with the US. I don't wanna let them in until they've dealt with the baggage that'll come with that breakup, like the gun obsessed rednecks.
  
  Fair enough. I'm trying to convince Cascadia to secede bit by bit.
- Fuck no. There are more Republicans in California than in Texas.
  
  You are not wrong but by proportional representation where Democrats far outnumber them, they will never win in policy so long as we don't do something stupid like voting by land rather than people.

Blackmail

Moron.

Shut the fuck up, Trump. Shut the fuck up.

He's trying to normalize this by actively repeating the crazy. Not to mention that Canada itself is comprised of multiple provinces that are mostly larger than many US States, so this would be more than 51st state (sorry this bothers me a bit even with all the crazy).

Until you put your rabid dog down-fast, and hard, America is NOT welcome in Canada!
Fuck you, America!
None of those statements are supported by any facts, or data. The opposite is mostly true.
You want to manufacture an invasion?
This WILL hurt the average American more than it will us.
You voted this POS in? GET HIM THE FUCK OUT OR FUCK OFF!

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