ICE nabs a Maryland woman in her car after smashing her window
Rejected at her door, ICE nabs a Maryland woman in her car after smashing her window
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/317681
So they wouldn’t let ICE inside their house to search for the grandmother, correct?
And then days later, ICE suddenly decides that the mom and granddaughter have “gang ties”, correct?
Riiiiiiiiight. Having “gang ties” is now the equivalent of cops planting a crack pipe on you.
Notice this always happens in states without constitutional carry.
Drawing a weapon would have only gotten them perforated. No this warrants a few pounds of C4 and the willingness to die to set an example.
Most people aren't willing to make such a commitment, even though all our lives are forfeit at this point.
Kidnapped*
This is why I'll never understand anti-gun lefties. Keep getting abducted by the authoritarian state.
Yeah, you're real tough buddy. I'm sure you would have shot every cop. They'd learn real quick not to mess with you!
So many gun laws exist today because Black Panthers doing cop watch. Basically they were across the street from police watching them during traffic stops with their guns out and it lead to a lot less people getting killed or mistreated during traffic stops. That's kind of a simplified history of it.
In my area police made some policies that lasted for more than a decade about not patrolling a certain area and then needing to respond with a shitton of officers if there's more than 2 people involved in a "potentially volatile situation" due to a bunch of people shaking a cop car and telling them to f off 20 years ago.
So blasting all quasi legal unmarked cops/ice isn't realistic or necessarily what most 2A people advocate there's plenty of history and merit in letting them know that people can potentially fight back, probably easier than you think to scare them considering a lot of the modern training is fear based
Don't get trapped in individualist thinking
https://dallasexpress.com/city/armed-far-leftists-block-dallas-homeless-vagrant-camp-clean-up/
That's not at all what I'm saying, but if the populace at large was armed these fascists wouldn't be so bold as to break into people's cars. These SS officers of the current day should be afraid to carry out their evil. The problem is we're so full of ourselves we've turned into pussies who are actually complacent with how the state disrespects us. Why do you think the working class keeps losing ground every year? We're more productive and efficient every day, but we lose more and more economic and social power by the minute.
But sure just keep calling me a tough guy while offering no real answers. I'd bet when they're knocking on your door you'll have wished you had something to protect yourself. I'm telling you now, America is cooked.
Lol wear a ski mask and go break a car window while someone is inside it, you'll make it no further than 3 cars.
Yeah just like all those "tough guys" that resisted Nazi occupation. Guess they were real silly to risk their lives for their freedom
I think there is an increasing amount of people willing to be that tough guy tbh
In a nation where we don't have to constantly protect ourselves from the state, we should not need to be saturated with deadly weapons.
Unfortunately, that is not the state of things in this nation.
I'm the most staunch anti-gun European guy you can get, and even I'm starting to come around to that mindset in the case of the US. Of course it's absolutely horrible because it implies y'all going into civil war and like, you know, no one should want that, but it sure is starting to look like Nazi hunting season over there.
It absolutely baffles me to be saying that, guns/violence should never have to be in the equation at all.
It was never the state of things IMO, we've always needed weapons, just not if you grew up in the burbs.
Go far enough left and you get your guns back
Wouldn't it be equally bad for her to brandish her weapon of fire at them?
For her alone in this situation? Yes, it would very likely be even worse for her (but still a silver lining if she were to take out an ICE agent or a few too). But if a community is armed and prepared to defend their members it makes it vastly harder for these fascists to just come and abduct people like this.
Guns alone are not the answer here. But guns paired with community is at least a .Major part of the answer.
How dense are you?
What does density have to do with anything?
Here's a hint: it's (enlightened centrist/white moderate) liberals, not lefties, who are anti-gun.
people who are "super to the left" might be against guns, probably not moderate dems, or closer to center right.
That's usually not how it goes though. The famous quote goes, "If you go far enough left, you get your guns back." Though the further I engage with those far leftists the more I dislike their means to get to their end. At least IMO, American center to mild left is pretty anti-gun.
Everything is such a disaster. I can’t imagine any value in sensationalizing a headline and article like this that isn’t motivated by driving traffic and distracting well meaning people whichever direction they can for their own capitalistic purposes.
Fixed: “Associate and suspected MS-13 member detained by ICE.
Nobody wants to watch their mom getting apprehended but it’s part of the game, you don’t get to play with gangs if you aren’t willing to have your life get a little messy.
ah, well if the gestapo insists she's a criminal, then it must be true! they've never been known to make a mistake or flat out lie before, it's absolutely unheard of 🤡
You are being weird about so some getting kidnapped off the street with no allegations that require evidence being made?
I hereby accuse you of association with MS13. Would it be acceptable to disappear you based on my accusation? No? Then fuck off, you are being a hateful little fuck.
Go back to reddit with your racist fascist nonsense. People like you are the only ones that deserve to be deported.
Sub-moronic. Incredible.
The government said that Berrios’ apprehension was driven in part because she is an associate of the violent gang MS-13, which has Salvadoran roots.
According to the current regime and their brownshirts, everyone with either Latin family or with a Latin name is associated with a violent gang, and they don't bother to demonstrate it in court.
This is exactly the hell we've been trying to prevent for fifty years, and failed.
This is sadly also getting to be familiar:
Would she really admit to being associated with MS-13 if she was? No.
The whole project of liberalism -- the idea that we could slowly reform American institutions instead of upend them -- has failed. On anything close to the current path we will see no meaningful action on climate change, no significant redistribution of ill-gotten gains, and no lasting checks on the ability of the state to carry out the type of arbitrary brutality that's the focus of this article.
It's time to think about which radical changes need to be made most urgently, and demanding those changes as a prerequisite to supporting whatever political leaders or movements emerge.