Edit: You guys aren't getting this, so I'll explain it. This was senseless murder. Period. This wasn't some he said she said left versus right bullshit. Go ahead and say "actually" and go fuck yourself. I'm tired of this ridiculous nerd baiting bullshit. You're not funny. You're not witty. You're not scoring points. Life isn't reducible to the whims of some shitty sorting hat that rewards you points because you're not a cunt. This was senseless murder and should be treated as such without stupid fucking dry sarcasm.
Nope it doesn't. They didn't rape the women at the music festival because of the Israeli bombs. They did it because they're monsters and they enjoyed it.
If all you people actually cared about Palestinians and didn't turn a blind eye about all the atrocities committed by Israel the past 70+ years, none of this would be happening now.
You're removing the all context because you don't give a fuck about Palestinians and their treatment by Israel. You're trying to pretend this happened in a vacuum.
Yes. Yes that was. And very irrelevant to the topic at hand. What are you trying to do, get a moral compass of some guy on the internet? Then what, open discussion? This is baseless murder. Stop comparing and start raging at the injustice.
Wtf did I just support by saying killing random civilians is bad? It was the most maximum low effort post on my end and you somehow managed to craft a lore around it where I have to have some sort of consistency. This isn't a videogame. I didn't fucking retcon the human atrocity cinematic universe. The gymnastics with you psychopaths is Olympic gold worthy.
Maybe not justifiable, but 100% predictable and a direct response to Israel's illegal actions (and unfortunately, as usual, innocent civilians are the ones who suffer).
The people affected here aren't "Israel". They're just civilians trying to live their lives. Believe me I hate the Israeli govermnet and am very sympathetic to Palestinian soverignty.
NOTHING justifies terrorism. It's evil and the people who did this are rats
Edit: yeah downvote me you sacks of shit. They raped women next to dead bodies of their friends.
its probably a dumb justification because i wasnt trying to justify anything
im pointing out that some americans saying something isnt hypocritical or less valid just because you saw some other americans say something that contradicts it
They murdered and raped people who were practically children because they were born in the same country as those who actually oppress them.
Opposing that doesn't inherently mean you support the actions of the Israeli government or military and there's not a fucking chance you genuinely believe it does.
But apparently there's no act despicable enough for you to pass up a chance to be an edgelord.
I hate to break it to you, but Gaza is where Hamas is. Hamas decided to fuck around and they're going to find out, and it's not going to be pretty. Gaza will likely be completely leveled; it's too dangerous to allow Hamas to remain anywhere near Israel.
You know that Israel will enter Gaza after this - with a huge army. And they will not start to indiscriminately kill civilians… but they will enter there, because they want to get attacked. And as soon as they get attacked, they will start flattening whole buildings from where they were attacked.
Sorry, I read your post over and over and brought my partner over to read it and we aren't sure we understand what you're saying.
No, this isn't what I'm saying at all /:
Yes let me just fight Israel by becoming like Israel.
I meant, that Israel kills civilians. When we have a militant group Hamas killing civilians, they are being like Israel in that they exhibit this internationally-recognized-as-a-war-crime behaviour. I don't think Hamas needed to kill those people partying at that music festival, I don't think it was tactical, I don't think it was necessary, I don't think it drove the cause forward in any way, I actually think it's an atrocity. That being said, Hamas killing civilians never excuses Israel doing its apartheid and genocide.
The downvotes are brigades mostly from Lemmygrad (yeah, I still don't know why the fuck most instances are federated with that Russian mouthpiece), you should check out their instance to see how they're overjoyed with the news of Jewish people being murdered at a music festival. I've listed some comments of the terrorist supporters here: https://lemmy.world/post/6531630
I have seen this on several posts. I am yet to see those tones of people. All the stuff people linked to so far shows nothing but normal discussions. So excuse my sceptisim... Where is that tonne?