We already basically had that. There was essentially no onerous responsibilities on individuals to be in the EU. Sure we had to give the EU money, but we also got money and I'm pretty sure that it was coming in more than it was going out.
On an individual citizens level, essentially there was no downside and huge amount of upside.
Have you tried going to France lately, it's a nightmare, it used to be that you would just drive up to the little passport kiosk and some French guy would barely glance at you and wave you through. You could have been a terrorist or smuggling drugs, he didn't care.
I'm honestly more surprised by the fact that 61% of Brexiteers still think this will ultimately turn around, than I am by this headline
We've had almost 4 years to start righting the ship, and we've done barely jackshit so far. What makes them think things will suddenly change anytime soon.
The problem is if Labour bring the UK back into the EU the Conservatives are going to start going on about illegitimately denying the will of the people, the actual will of the people not withstanding.
It sets the precedent that you can just flip flop on these things.
The only way to do it would be they would have to be another referendum. And I'm concerned that UKIP idiots would come out of the woodwork once again and mess that up.
It'd odd until you consider that at least that many Brexiteers fell head over heels for that misleading NHS statistic printed on the side of a bus, and just ran with ot to the voting stations...
If it's that easy to convince them to shoot themselves in the foot, it's probably that easy to convince them it was a good thing.
I’ll bet my left leg that 9% consists of A: corrupt shitbags who shorted the £ or otherwise made profit from the disaster, and B: Daily Mail-style Tory-voting retards who have absolutely no critical thinking skills and who reckon they are just around the corner from being in danger of a higher tax bracket despite shooting themselves in the foot like turkeys voting for Christmas, every. Fucking. Time.
People who go on about tax brackets are the most annoying people in the world because they demonstrably don't understand how tax works.
No Susan you won't get put in a higher tax bracket if you get £100 extra a month. You'll only pay extra tax on the £100, I don't care what you read on Facebook. That isn't how tax works.
I'm in my late fifties, and my best friend who regularly takes me hiking (he's ex-Coldstream Guards) is a Brexiteer and I'm a Remainer.
We meet maybe once every couple of months, and it's always the first thing he wants to talk about - he's firmly in the "this is not the Brexit I voted for" camp.
I don't want to bad mouth him because he's my dearest of friends but give it a rest mate. I want talk about who's playing at our local dive bar next week, I'm not bothered about Brexit any more.
He's bound to read it here. What better place to write it.
I voted leave because the EU hasn't passed an audit for about 25 - 30 years, fraud being regularly cited. Our local politicians of all persuasions are bent enough, why add more?
On a basic matter we were desperate to join the EU in the seventies because the UK was bankrupt. We ended up being the second highest contributor after Germany with loads of net takers and many applying to join.
Much cheaper, given the fraud, to just give money directly to the East European states (and of course Greece.).
Oh no! The country that stole a ton of shit suddenly is not so great now that they can't steal more shit!
But really, they got all the global wealth and it made them rich. They thought they were rich because they were intrinsically great but really they were just propping themselves up. They thought they could brexit and retain their greatness but the EU wasn't stifling them it was masking their decline.
I think a LOT of voters wanted to slow down migration. Leaders lied to them, and claimed the only way to do that was to leave the EU, so they did. Now they're realising the reason migration is high is because both major parties are neoliberals who want high migration to pump house prices and keep wages low. It won't change until they elect a party which cares about the working class, and campaigns on reducing migration to no more than the number of homes built in the previous year. This is such common sense policy that the only reason it's not already in effect is because leaders in all major parties don't care about the middle class.
The country needs more people. Locals are not having enough babies to cover that, and the world is full of fantastic other people who want to come here, and help make the place great. The only reason to turn them away is a toxic mix of short-sightedness and racism.
No it doesn’t. It certainly didn’t need 1.2 million people last year. The only reason to support this insanity is a desire to increase homelessness and impoverish the middle and lower classes.