Skype was shut down for good today

Story of the times, have a good thing then break it so you can replace it with a shitier thing. Then have the competition eat your lunch by making a slightly less shitty thing.
I found my physical "skipe" phone last week, dang it we could have had a bad bitch. But no, now we have fucking teams.

Immigration Canada wanted proof of my wife and I's relationship, so we dumped a packet of printed call logs on them as thick as a novel. Skype certainly served its purpose.

skype was way ahead of his time. The quality was top notch. MS fucked by changing the architecture from decentralized to centralized in windows servers - this fucked up the calls quality and it created an opportunity window for whatsapp, viber, etc...
MS turned skype to shit.
- I'll never get over MSN Messenger
  
  For video calls that was really bad compared to skype.
  Unfortunately everybody was using it (i had to do it because everybody was using it).
- Story of the Microsoft..

I want to put Skype's corpse on a banner and wave it around to all the software that's currently undergoing enshittification.

Not really. It’s just called “Teams” now.

Truthfully I loved Skype until Microsoft bought it.

Still find it absolutely wild that Microsoft fucked up during the global pandemic and allowed Zoom to slide right into the communications spot Skype should have been.
Fucking idiots.
- Hey, RIM/Blackberry's CEO went to mobile world Congress in 2010, 3 solid YEARS after the iPhone launched, was dominating and defining the smartphone world and said, "we feel touchscreen is not the future of mobile phones" and rolled out another hybrid touch/keyboard model like the 5 they already had
  Blackberry was $150/share as of 2009 with the entire world in front of it. It's now worth $3.59/share.
  
  to be fair i miss physical keyboards on phones. i wish we still had space for it.
  
  Intel thought the iPhone market was going to be too small so they didn't agree to manufacture their CPUs
  
  Netflix tried to get distribution in Blockbuster and a partnership w/them and were told to fuck off …
  
  Blackberry and Nokia were so slow to react to the iPhone, it was painful to watch.
  
  They’re a cyber security firm now. Wild stuff.
  
  https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250096067/losingthesignal/
  
  I think he felt right, but at the same time Blackberry wasn't properly marketed.
  And maybe having a touchscreen option would be good enough.
- Microsoft has 1 massive disadvantage when it tries to enter new markets.
  It has to deal with brutal cutthroat competition from its worst enemy: Microsoft.
  Ms internal politics destroy almost all its successes, their politics are why theyve never really been a threat, for every skype there's a teams which cuts them off at the knees lest it cost a division head their chance at a promotion.
  
  I personally blame stack ranking, invented by Jack Welch to justify cutting 20% of the company.
  If you want to get mad, the Behind the Bastards episode on him explains why corporate America is what it is today.
- Did they really? Microsoft championed Teams and its pretty accepted in corporate environments today, especially if they are already on Microsoft.
  Afaik, Skype for Business was merged into Teams. Skype for non-business consumers has been virtually dead for longer. The way I see it, Microsoft let go of the brand, the value of which is questionable in this decade. When they bought it, I remember the rumors saying it was because of its voice codec, which probably got used in everything from xbox live to teams in the end.
  
  Nobody uses Teams voluntarily. It's always imposed by corporate.
  Skype was the term for skyping. It's like buying a social media that coined the term tweet and changing it's name to a letter. Stupidest shit ever.
- IMHO, the pandemic just allowed everyone to see how much better of an experience Zoom had over Skype.
  I worked in an office where half of corporate used Skype, and the cooler sub-brands used Zoom. No one in the main corporate office was happy about using Skype. Microsoft had been neglecting it for quite some time.
  
  Microsoft had been neglecting it for quite some time.
  You're right but that's why they're idiots 😄
  
  how much better of an experience Zoom had over Skype.
  I hate Zoom
- I couldn't get my head round this at all. Everyone used Skype where I worked, and it seemed hugely popular. By the time COVID happened, I was in another job, and all of a sudden everyone was going mad about this Zoom program. I'd never heard of it, but it just came out of nowhere and everyone on the planet was using it. How on earth Skype fumbled it so hard is absolutely staggering.
  
  Skype didn't fumble it, Microsoft just doesn't know how to strategy. When they bought Skype, they killed MSN and told people to move to Skype, whereas they should've integrated the two to make the transition seamless. Then they had both Teams and Skype for Business at the same time by the time COVID happened.
  They messed up on every turn.
- MS Teams did become the standard in a lot of places now
  
  I have to use Teams for work and it is absolute dog shit.

MSN messenger died for Skype
Skype died for Teams
We're not on a great trajectory here
(Yes Lync too, but everyone was pleased about that)
- What most people don't know about the ouroboros is that every time the creature eats itself it becomes a little bit closer to being a turd (a consequence of its peculiar metabolism) so even though from an inside perspective the system appears to be in a complex mysterious cyclic kind of stasis, from the outside it is just more and more obviously a turd in the shape of a donut.
  
  Is this real lore or is this meme
- Teams died for Teams (New)
- Teams will die for Copilot somehow.
  
  Teams
  New Teams
  Teams (New)
  Teams with Copilot
  Copilot Teams
- Teams dying doesn't sound too bad either. Just hoping the next iteration isn't even worse
  
  Given M$'s track record, it definitely will be worse...
  
  Next iteration will be "Copilot for Teams".
  Whenever you get a message, Copilot will auto-send an answer unless you click "no" in a popup without window decorations, showing a timer.
  On Windows Pro, you can disable this with a registry key, but that resets with feature updates.
  
  Next iteration will be MSN Messenger
- And MSN was so much better.
  
  Can imagine your boss nudging you? Lol
- Did it die, though? Last time I had to use windows for work (shudder) the Teams app process name was lync.exe. Or was it Skype?
  Either way, shit’s still around.

Everyone cashed out on Skype the day it was sold to eBay. Years later people are still wondering what happened to it?? The train left the station forever ago.
- Yup. It was THE app to use way back in the day. Before that was Ventrilo, but setting up a Vent server was a pain in the ass. I got it working once, but it was a lot of port tinkering and giving out my IP to trusted friends.
  Skype made it so easy to just click and call or else make rooms for your guild in whatever game you played at the time (my poison of choice was Ragnarok Online).
  Then Skype changed hands, started monetizing, pushing Windows pre-installs, and would even watch conversations to make sure no one was using the app for sexual purposes.
  
  giving out my IP to trusted friends
  Just in case you ever get back into it: We regularly see scanners scanning the internet with a million packets per second at work these days. That means it takes them 4000 seconds to scan the entire IPv4 Internet to check who responds on port 3784. So handing out the IP selectively won't be enough.
  I also learned that the hard way privately with my Minecraft server. It was found in a scan and listed on Shodan at some point, and I hadn't put up a whitelist. Some shitty kids came and destroyed whatever they could find before finally putting up signs to mock me lol

great, now do teams.
nobody should have to use that ugly useless piece of shit for anything.
- My company decided we don't need phones and makes us use Teams for calls. Every day I think about murdering the person who made that decision.
  
  Same here. I made my bed with it though.
  I have a "work phone". it sits at my desk. I'll answer it when I'm there, otherwise I don't get called.
  I can't (pronounced won't) install any work shit on my personal phone because I run e/os and it isn't compatible with their policies. 🤷 oopsies.
  fuck em. I've been giving them 4 hours a day for months now, after giving them over a decade of 15-18 hour days.
- My company used to have Slack and forced this abomination upon us. At least now I can plausibly pretend not to have seen people’s messages.

I remember the "old" Skype, which was essential for keeping in touch with my siblings before we got cell phones. Once I got a phone, it was the end of Skype until ~2014 when I got a job where Skype for business was available. I still didn't use it because that application would sometimes crash if you just jiggled the mouse. It became a running joke at my workplace.
Clock into work, Skype crashed.
Go to lunch, Skype crashed.
Ran out of TP at home. You guessed it. Skype crashed.

I'm 39. So I've been around Skype since it came out back in 2003. Since then, 22 years later I didn't use it a single time. Never downloaded the program, app or accessed the webpage. 🤷
- I used Skype a couple of times - I was talking to someone overseas. This was pre zoom. It’s interesting that they dropped the ball, they could have been zoom.

It was dead to me after microsoft bought it.
- It really went downhill from them on.
  Skype was only good while it still had a native Linux version.
  
  And as a follow up, Teams was never good because it was never native to anything (instead it was Electron and is now some sort of React/Edge homebrew).

I fell out of contact with a lot of people when they shuttered MSN messenger for Skype, so not sad to see it go.
- MSN Messenger was brilliant. At the time I used it, everyone I knew used it. It was the go-to for communication.

On one hand, having been forced to use Skype, I’m happy to see it gone. On the other hand, they somehow made it worse and called it Teams.
- Please don't confuse skype4biz and Skype. The former only borrows the name, and shares a lot of code with teams, Lync and probably netmeeting.
  The latter will be missed.
  
  Skype for business was truly awful.
  A new convo instance every time I messaged the same person after a few hours of not, taking upwards of 10 minutes to sync convos between my laptop and my phone if it did at all, and the shittiest voice/video functions ever? Glad that shit died, teams seems amazing in comparison.
  
  Communicator should be in there somewhere, too

Wait, Skype was still around? I thought it shutdown a few years back
- Scream test.
- Mandela effect in full bloom

Rip to a real one

Somebody send a gift basket to the Skype CEO, he's not doing so well.
- I see Brennan, I upvote. Love the guy, his DnD campaigns are a blast!

Is there a non paywalled link?

They screwed it up as much as possible and abandoned the P2P protocol and are now shutting it down. The behavior is like a little kid who broke a toy, it stopped working and he throws it away.

For us plebs. Government (US) will still use it for years to come.
- I think Teams has already taken over there as well.
  
  Not everywhere.
- Nope, Teams.
  
  Not everywhere.

It’s sad… Skype saved my butt when I was stuck in Peru and needed to call for help in my home country. I had found out 1-800 lines didn’t use call credits

Can I guess that the American amoral capitalist company won’t have transferred my Skype credit?
- I had like $9.22 remaining credit from some international calls back in 2002 I was going to use...eventually.

Skype you later!

I find it funny Microsoft gave me a survey on my work PC asking about how I'm enjoying its products (I laughed in Linux, "how do you like windows customizablity" let me go off about KDE lol)
But back to the subject. Literally everything they work on seems to turn to shit --- I wonder what kind of survey feedback are they usually getting? "Oh, Skypes cool but I really like Teams"
- Literally everything they work on seems to turn to shit
  Not the MS Office though.

I actually had a Skype phone back in the days

IMO Skype to this day has the best emojis.

Is Microsoft planning to release a viable replacement at some point?
- Teams is their replacement, viable or not
  
  Teams helps cooperation by uniting everyone in their shared hatred for Teams.
  
  they could have kept the skype name on the 'consumer' product, even if underneath it was the same piece of shit teams, just with 'enterprise' features hidden.

I never really used Skype as a VOIP platform, but it was a great tool for many years for calling international phone numbers affordably. I'm sure it helped many people saving a lot of money calling their friends and relatives. For that I remember it somewhat fondly.

Still working as of 4 hours ago, saw my friend using it, might be business version though.

Skype for Business LTSC 2024 is still supported until 2029. You just need to already be running an On-Prem Skype for Business Server and migrate it to the new Subscription Edition come October. I bet it will get really costly for the holdouts.

Who?

https://archive.ph/lXBd1
Archive

Huh?
I thought Skype was still a widely used thing.
- Well; not any more. That's for sure.
- microsoft pissed away all the brand recognition it ever had and turned it into teams. in 2020 it was poised to be the most important technology there was, but having received no updates in years, it was effectively already dead
- I haven't heard of anyone using Skype in over a decade.
- Was.