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  • When did the Palestinians vote last? What were the demographics of that vote? Are you completely confident it was a purely democratic vote or was it the kind of democracy Putin got voted by? Perhaps the kind kim was voted in by? Or do you think Palestinians have an electoral college like the US?

    • 2006. They were judged free and fair by observers. Hamas won the majority, to the surprise of many outside the region.

      • So you're fine with a nearly 20 year old vote, when the majority of the population is under 20, being the justification for "they chose Hamas?"

        • You tell me:

          Fatah wins against Hamas in West Bank cities and Hamas wins in Gaza Strip cities [given a putative snap election]

          To break the deadlock, 56% support popular non-violent resistance, 50% support a return to armed intifada [emphasis mine], and 48% support dissolving the PA

          The largest percentage (42%) views armed struggle as the most effective means of ending the occupation

          You tell me:

          In the poll, 53% of the 1,200 Palestinians surveyed said they believed Hamas is "most deserving of representing and leading the Palestinian people." By contrast, just 14% said the same of Fatah.

          You tell me (PDF warning):

          It’s not letting me select and copy from it; read the damn thing.

          • I don't trust polls in the US why should I trust them anywhere else? I'm talking about votes, things that have a chance to change things.

            • I did my best to avoid Israeli sources when finding these polls for that exact reason. If you’re going to ignore the evidence I’ve given you in response to your claims, there is no further point in engaging with you.

              • Israeli sources aren't the only problem with polls. Polls are pretty notoriously bad.

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