Biden in Israel Says Hospital Blast Appears Done by ‘Other Team’
Biden in Israel Says Hospital Blast Appears Done by ‘Other Team’
I resent the ubiquity of the language of sports in political matters. It is reductive in framing and trivial in tone.
Me too, well said.
It's incredibly gross to see these two groups as "teams" competing against one another while fans watch from the sidelines for entertainment.
With how many atrocities occur in this messed up world (and the Middle East especially), it’s hard to keep caring and see it as anything other than a sport in a faraway place.
The news is emotionally draining on purpose, or so I think.
@knexcar compassion fatigue? This is something social media can help with, ironically.
I remember a few years ago when I was back on another site, a poster who was trialling 3D-printed field tourniquets (he was a medic) posted about his experience being shot in the leg by Israeli snipers who shot his colleague dead later that day.
Really brought home that these are just people like you and me, with hobbies and jobs and lives... and comment histories.
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"Team" isn't a term used exclusively in the domain of sporting contests. In fact, it is a military term, as well (although not as ubiquitous in that space).
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Analytic and technical terms are sterile and effect a dehumanization of not only the actors involved, but also the outcomes of events.
- "team" by itself just means a group of people working together to achieve a common goal, BUT when used in the context of "the other team" (with the definite article) it implies there are two teams working in opposition to one another specifically.
@Gradually_Adjusting's idea that this is most likely intended as a sports metaphor for Biden's audience seems reasonable.
- I can't decide whether you're saying "team" is analytical and sterile/dehumanizing, or whether you're suggesting that actually calling Hamas "Hamas" would have been dehumanizing.
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Well, the full quote is:
And based on what I’ve seen that appears as though it was done by the other team, not you,
He is refering to the Israeli evidence given, he's not giving new information distinct from that
He is refering to the Israeli evidence given
Which is still dumb as fuck...
Israel has shown time and time again they'll exaggerate evidence or flat out make it up.
They went full fascist long ago. And fascists first instinct is always to say evidence proves theyre right, but then try not to show anyone because it was a lie.
Then again, the other side is Hamas and Islamic Jihad with so far no evidence. I am not trusting Israel blindly, but neither do I trust those two blindly. It's entirely possible that Islamic Jihad fucked up big time and Hamas tried to pin this on Israel. As far as fact checking goes, it probably needs a bit more time, but so far Israel's claims and evidence seem to check out.
The implication of your statement is that Hamas doesn't exaggerate, or fabricate, stories and evidence to feed their information war.
FWIW, I agree with the words in your statement, but I disagree with the intention behind them, for the reasons I provided up top.
Apologies for the Daily Mail, but this is an audio recording of two Hamas fighters discussing the blast and stating it was from a botched rocket launch in a graveyard behind the hospital.
You can say they just made this up, but at that point you should at least admit that there is no possible evidence that would change your mind and that your view is completely inflexible.
Speaking alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Biden said: "I was deeply saddened and outraged by the explosion of the hospital in Gaza yesterday, and based on what I've seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you."
"But there's a lot of people out there not sure, so we’ve got a lot, we’ve got to overcome a lot of things," Biden added.
If they have proof that the hospital attack was a Hamas misfire, I will hear their information.
I've watched every video they've posted, and every one seems like a patriot system intercepting a missile. So I keep holding out for a video that shows the moment of the hospital destruction, but so far, no luck.
I am starting to think we might never know, considering that Biden is going to commit to this story. Whether it can be verified or not.Though, as far as Israel being the intelligence capital of the middle east. Let's just say, I've received better reporting/verification from Ukraine operations and they don't get 5 billion a year for intelligence.
Edit: new video has been discovered of the incident,
So I keep holding out for a video that shows the moment of the hospital destruction, but so far, no luck.
You won't get it. Remember that Hamas rockets are like two steps removed from being made in somebody's backyard. They don't have this kind of firepower.
Edit: I'd seen a wrong picture. Nevermind.
Netanyahu's spokesman also boasted that Israel did the attack.
There are drone videos showing destroyed cars in a parking lot and the hospital standing.
Not good from Biden here.