1mo ago

An update on the X11 GNOME Session Removal. The X11 session for GNOME 49 will be disabled by default and it’s scheduled for removal

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An update on the X11 GNOME Session Removal

1mo ago

blogs.gnome.org /alatiera/2025/06/08/the-x11-session-removal/

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1mo ago

An update on the X11 GNOME Session Removal

blogs.gnome.org /alatiera/2025/06/08/the-x11-session-removal/

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Hopefully GDM can still run X11 Desktops that's what I care the most
- What's stopping you from using wayland, out of interest?
  
  to run legacy x11 apps that dont work under xwayland??
  but ik i can use a lightweight wayland compositor like labwc
  
  I sometimes install some windows programs in lutris. With some apps, the setup.exe wizard shows as a black window. Switching to xorg allows me to run the full setup without issues.
  I also remember having issues with Nvidia/gnome and Wayland, but I haven't tried in a while and the Nvidia driver got updated a few times in the mean time.
How will they reconcile this with Ubuntu that wants 26.04 LTS to still be able to launch X11 sessions from GDM?
- The source code is freely available and GNOME isn't beholden to Canonicals decisions. If the Ubuntu devs want to keep X11 around nobody can stop them from maintaining it themselves, or pay somebody from the GNOME team to do it for them.
- We went ahead and disabled the X11 session by default and from now on it needs to be explicitly enabled when building the affected modules. (gnome-session, GDM, mutter/gnome-shell).
  Aside from a simple flag change and a recompile before Canonical adds the packages to their repo, it doesn't sound like this will affect Ubuntu at all. They probably already do this anyway to add their own little patches.
  The most likely scenario is that all the X11 session code stays disabled by default for 49 with a planned removal for GNOME 50.
  GNOME 50 is when Canonical will truly need to either move to Wayland or do something else.
  Seems fairly reasonable of a timeline from the GNOME team, IMO.
  
  Something tells me Canonical won't just kneel to THE ALMIGHTY GNOME TEAM

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