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In California, plans to move low-income neighborhoods off of gas advance

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3w ago

In California, plans to move low-income neighborhoods off of gas advance

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Same in Victoria Australia
Gas hot water systems to be phased out of Victorian homes under new energy reforms
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-24/victoria-gas-reforms-announcement/105451354
We had so much gas and it was so amazing and cheap and now we're running out of it
California is great at putting it's horse before its cart
Don’t let Trump hear of this.
California has the 2nd highest electric rates in the country. Not sure why they want to fuck poor people even more. I'm for getting things clean, but this is treating a symptom and not the disease.
- How is this fucking poor people? They’re providing them free infrastructure upgrades.
  I am in the process of electrifying and it saves me money. The electrical options are much more efficient and gas is expensive.
  
  Don't know if you're in California and poor, or not. I am. Gas is way cheaper. Don't misunderstand me, I think things have to move in this direction, but unless it comes with a big subsidy (something along the lines of the heat pumps mentioned in the article), make no mistake, it's fucking poor people.
This sounds great but can the 70 year old grid handle the electrical load? Are they adding incentives for free or reduced solar? Is it practical AT ALL?
- California has a lot of solar already, but the incentives are not great right now, and they have added battery storage too
- Add to it that if your power doesn't come from renewable sources, it's worse for the environment to switch to electric appliances. Just. This sounds like people really meaning well...
  
  This is California we are talking about, they have a ton of renewables in their grid
  
  Actually no because it can be electrified in the future. Just push California to build up more renewables.
  
  Wild claim to make without backing it up with anything. Additionally, with no grids being fully non-renewable at this point, and everyone trending towards renewables for economic reasons, this is just flat out wrong
  
  Classic "road to hell being paved with good intentions" vibes.

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