Technology @lemmy.world Harry_Houdini @lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 mo. ago

Grayjay - Revolutionizing the Way We Consume Videos

technomagnus.vercel.app Grayjay - Revolutionizing the Way We Consume Videos

Break Free from Platform Dependence with Grayjay.

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Not free software? No, thanks.

I'm very happy with Newpipe, which respects their users' freedom.
- LibreTube is another great FLOSS option. Just like Piped.
- Is there a particular aspect of the FUTO license you are concerned with? The code is publicly available, and the license seems to allow you to do anything you want, except sell the code. Other than not allowing you to re-package and sell the code, it seems like your rights are very similar to anything distributed via the GPL.
  
  Am I missing something?
  
  repackaging is a fundamental software freedom. that's just for starters.
  
  Here I leave a comment I saw here for a more detailed explanation.
  
  Friendly reminder that Grayjay is only source-available.
  
  FUTO Temporary License (FTL) violates the following open-source principles:
  
  Open source licenses must allow free redistribution. FTL allows license suspension and termination at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.
  
  Open source licenses must allow source code distribution. FTL allows restrictions to access the code at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.
  
  Open source licenses must allow modifications. FTL allows modifications only for non-commercial use, or maybe not even that. FTL dodges the word modifications here, no clue.
  
  Open source licenses must explicitly allow distribution of software built from modified source code. FTL forbids distribution of software built from modified source code for commercial use.
  
  Open source licenses must not discriminate against persons/groups and fields of endeavor. FTL allows license suspension and termination at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.
  
  The FTL enables the following practices:
  
  Copyright holders can change the license terms.
  
  Copyright holders can re-license everything.
  
  Copyright holders can target specific groups and individuals with discriminatory license terms.
  
  Copyright holders can close source everything.
  
  Copyright holders can forbid specific groups and individuals from using their work.
  
  My main gripe here is that the video sells a source-available software with severe usage restrictions as open-source. These restrictions may sound reasonable to people outside of the open-source world, especially to people who use similar wording in their own terms of service, but nobody would touch your software with a ten foot pole with a software license like that.
  
  It's a revokable license. Nobody in their right mind will touch software with a revokable license.
Number of people have contacted Louis Rossmann and asked him to stop calling this app open source because it simply fails the definition of open source and his response has been very lacking. Clearly he doesn't understand what open source is and now he is knowingly misrepresenting this app as open source. He seems to want the legitimacy and credibility that comes with open source but not want to let go of the control that needs to happen for open source to function. This is very disappointing and I'm staying far away from this product.
can we stop advertising this app already? it's not open source. people needs to stop licking Rossmann's ass.

right to repair is great, we can all agree in that. but when it comes to software, the guy can't stand the idea of people using his source as they please and he wrote a source available license and keeps calling it open source. as other comments have pointed out, it is not.
Notable FAQs

Grayjay is currently Android exclusive. A desktop version is planned.

God,… dammit.…
- Freetube is a great desktop app
- Yeah the vast majority of phones are Android mate, sorry to break it to you!
  
  People do frequently consume videos on devices other than their phone, though. A desktop application is arguably just as important.
I use Songtube
- There is zero chance I will install SongTube right now.
  
  I only give permission to install apps to app stores and app managers. The author should put in the work to have the app included in the main F-Droid repository before I could even consider recommending the app.
  
  Practically, no apps should be downloading updates to themselves.
  
  https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/com.artxdev.songtube
  
  @visnudeva
  @Harry_h0udini
  
  Izzyondroid repo is maintained by an active and trusted F-Droid core contributor, don't you use it and why not ? If it is really bad I could change for libretube which is second in my list but not as beautiful.
I feel like a search plugin needs to be added to PeerTube to allow search and use of YouTube, with the added benefit of downloading the video (in the background) and adding it to PT.
I like the idea of having an app where I can have video services in one place. Having some issues with GrayJay, but it says "Under Construction" so I guess that's to be expected. Is anyone else planning similar apps? I know there are ones specifically for YouTube but this is the first I'm aware of that is trying to include more.
That's interesting. If it just supports sponsor block like Vanced does, it would be awesome.
- Use LibreTube or NewPipe x SponsorBlock.
  
  I have already a sponsor block with Youtube Vanced, but I need it specifically for this app.
- Not at the moment
how is it that Grayjay is available on the Play Store? wtf
- Anyone can publish there
  
  if that were so then perhaps Newpipe and Revanced should be published there as well?

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