Games @sh.itjust.works nanoUFO @sh.itjust.works 12 mo. ago

Cities: Skylines 2 dev says it won't release paid DLC until performance "fixed to our standards"

www.eurogamer.net Cities: Skylines 2 dev says it won't release paid DLC until performance "fixed to our standards"

Cities: Skylines 2 studio Colossal Order has pledged not to release paid DLC for its city building sequel until its hea…

Gaming @lemmy.ml HowSwayy @lemmy.ml 12 mo. ago

www.eurogamer.net /cities-skylines-2-dev-wont-release-paid-dlc-until-performance-fixed-to-our-standards

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But you released a paid game without performance to your standards? Weird.
- The developers are mostly blameless, Paradox forced the premature launch.
  
  Paradox as a publisher seems to pull this shit a lot. Was really looking forward to Lamplighter's League, but the buggy mess that it released in shows very clearly that Paradox shoved it out the door before QA had some serious time with it.
  
  They don't do this shit with their in-house games, seems to be an issue with them as a publisher.
- who said it wasn't to their standards
  
  They did. They said the game wasn't meeting their performance targets.
  
  https://www.ign.com/articles/cities-skylines-2-dev-admits-performance-issues-will-launch-the-game-anyway
  
  Just lower your standards. Problem fixed.
My train platforms being filled with dogs was kind of a hilarious bug, though it's being patched next update.
- hey maybe those dogs have places to go lol
  
  As long as they pay the fare
  
  Moscow DLC
- Maybe this was a shout out to Moscow’s Metro Dogs
- That's reserved for the Zootopia dlc
- I think they lowered the rate where dogs become strays
How generous...
Not sure if I trust paradox to let them. Stellaris still runs like shit.
- Stellaris is also almost 10 years old with an engine that is, by admission of the devs, coded into a dead end. They customized an older version of it too much and now they can't get the performance improvements from the newer engine versions into the game.
  
  They don't need a new engine, they need to stop calculating every pop every day and start using events to trigger a calculation. E.g. a species modification or changing buildings on a planet.
- Stellaris is like one of the most simulation heavy 4X games there is. There's a limit to how good performance you can get when you're making a complex simulation like that.
  
  I agree, but they've promised performance fixes since like 2018 but never actually put any effort into it.
- I haven't played Stellaria in a while, but I don't remember the performance being bad. If it is it's not because of any graphical thing that can be improved, but for the same reason Dwarf Fortress runs like shit, i.e. there's a limit to your CPU power when simulating hundreds of individuals.
  
  The problem with Stellaris is that they simulate every individual even if nothing changed about them. If nothing changes on a planet or species then they shouldn't recalculate employed pops.
- Pops ruin it!
  
  Colossi fix it.
Reminder that their standards are apparently 30 FPS.
- Cinematic standards.
- it's a city builder. like 90%+ of the player base would rather have 20-30 fps now rather than 60 fps in 3 months.
They should put performance fixes as a dlc and sell it. True capitalism.
How about this. Take all the features from SC1 DLCs and put them in vanilla SC2 and release it as a fully complete game.

Oh who the hell am I kidding, it's Paradox. The only more DLC greedy game companies are EA and whoever makes Train Simulator.
- Hey, the Sims 4 modders, who use free 3d models to create badly made furniture mods, just to sell them for $20-30 on Patreon want to have a word with you
Shouldn't have released the GAME before it was up to your standards.......
It feels like Paradox made them release the game too early and now Colossal Order is trying to pick up the pieces

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