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ummthatguy @lemmy.world

1y ago

Semantics: Who is more disliked?

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In universe? Inaros. I don't know if Kai Winn's crimes ever gets the same widespread attention.
But in every other way Kai Winn is the worst. Fuck Kai Winn. All my homies hate Kai Winn.
- Yeah, in-universe, Winn was a true patriot in the Bajoran resistance against the Cardassians.
  She was absolutely an insufferable c-word and ultimately undone by her rampant ambition and desire for recognition; she was a terrible, terrIble person, but was not responsible for the deaths of millions (granted, she ultimately would have been, at least in part, if not for Sisko).
  Inaros comes off much more like a mustache twirler. He's utterly uncaring about life in general. Maybe Winn could have reached his level of despicable and worthiness for removal from the land of living, but by both of their ends, Inaros wins the universal shitbag award by far.
  All that said, while I'd more readily rid the universe of Inaros, it would feel like removing a tumor. I'd have a celebratory pile of hasperat and spring wine over Winn's departure.

Marco has so much charisma. A huge part of his insidiousness is just how charming he is. There are points you almost wonder if he's really the bad guy.
On the other hand, Winn isn't as charming, she's not particularly sympathetic for most of the series. She's kinda just hubristic and antagonistic, and isn't very good at pretending to care about anything other than her own power grabs.
Plus she's way less hot.
- Plus she's way less hot
  Agree to disagree 🫠

Just looking at this picture makes me too upset to answer.

I don't know who the GV Kylo Ren is on the right but If you hand me a phaser with two shots and these two were locked with me in a runabout id shoot Wynn twice.
- Guy on the right has the biggest (fictional) body-count in human history. Dude gravity-strikes earth (adjusting asteroid orbits so they'll fall into earth's gravity well) killing billions and destroying earths ability to support life for tens of thousands of years. Then acts like it makes him the greatest freedom fighter ever.
  He does this in a world where earth is still the only place where agriculture is reliably possible at scale, billions more would have died from the food shortage. Literally the only reason humanity survives his bullshit is that it happens to discover FTL gates and other life-supporting planets right at the same time.
  Winn is bad. Marco is objectively a thousand times worse. He would have genocided his own species to stroke his ego.
- The expanse.
  I highly recommend if you like low sci fi with lots of attention paid to realism.
  
  I've been seeing that show mentioned a lot since Starfield, which supposedly has a similar vibe. I should probably check it out at some point.

Inaros is a psychopath, a dangerous egomaniac, and just a straight up dick.
But Winn is just the worst.

Winn is an annoyance compared to Inaros. Winn you could give a good beating, and it'd be satisfying.
You could do the same to Inaros, but then there'd be billions in line to do it next.

It could get worse:

my brain is frozen by sheer hate

"Klaes, there's room in the airlock for two, correct? We don't need to cycle the air twice?"

I was tempted to merge Kai Winn with the real main villain from HP.
- Why have you done this? Would you kindly kill it with fire?
  
  As you wish.

Maybe it's because I didn't read the books but Inaro was underwhelming in general. Like I was supposed to care about how big of a threat he is but his character was so cartoonish.

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