How do you handle the insane entitlement of women on dating apps?
How do you handle the insane entitlement of women on dating apps?
I don't think I've spoken to a woman on Tinder who is actually interested in dating. The majority of them don't ever reply, the few that do put zero effort into the conversation and often just want money. Once in a while a woman agrees to meet then just doesn't. What the actual fuck? How do you guys handle this bullshit?
Before I get called an incel 1000 times, I am already doing everything right. I'm in therapy, I exercise every day, I eat healthy, I have diverse interests and several friends. I have paid people to review my profile and conversations and everyone agrees I am doing everything right.
I think the women you are looking for aren't on Tinder. Dating sites are dominated by fake profiles, bots and grifters.
Low effort swiping leads to low effort trash interactions. Get on some different sites.
Tell me the different site and I will
Hinge, Match, Bumble, Okcupid.
Is eHarmony still around? That was a good site for finding serious partners when I was single. Match was okay too. The best place to meet women is IRL.
Unfortunately the dating apps are mostly enshitified at this point.
See if you can find an IRL club to join with people who share an interest. You might meet someone interesting that way.
I'm in two social groups but it's 90% men the few women are sick of being hit on
The majority of them don’t ever reply, the few that do put zero effort into the conversation and often just want
moneysex. Once in a while awoman agrees to meet then just doesn’t. What the actual fuck? How do youguysgirls handle this bullshit?To be fair, I heard very similar stories (see the minor edits) from my dates. Apparently, dating sites suck for both sides. Low effort, low result.
It helps your own sanity and attractivity to not generalize and act as if the other person is genuinely decent. If they are not, move on. If they are, at least you did not screw them up for the faults of other people.
Yes, lots of women are interested in actually dating, but many, like you, suspect every other person to be a horrible experience. So each side is busy with their negative expectations and fears, plays defensively. And of course, the asymmetry does not help either.
Generally, I think it makes sense to slow down or stop or change if what you are doing becomes too frustrating for you.
Or maybe my experiences don't translate well to your area/bubble/whatever. You could talk to your female friends and see what their experiences are.
Well said! I was going to pop my head in here to say something similar to the "low effort, low result" idea. I think that's primarily the problem. Meeting people with substance isn't just a swipe away, but most people on those apps think it is.
Looking to connect with people via sex is NOT the same as trying to manipulate lonely people with false hope so they give you money...
Ok? That's not what I meant or said. If you approach people with this self-centered negative attitude, no wonder they don't connect.
How did you find people who reviewed stuff in exchange for money?
Dating apps now suck. I’d recommend keep working on yourself like you already are, and ask someone out IRL
Several of my friends have told me getting hit on is uncomfortable and not to do it. So apps are my only option.
Asking someone out in person is fine. Start up a normal conversation if you can, if it goes well ask them out or ask if you can give them your number or something before you walk away. If they say no you accept it, stay polite and move on. No one reasonable will have a problem with that as long as you had a normal genuine conversation. You're not hitting on anyone at that point.
It's not easy and your friends might be right, but perhaps you are focusing on the wrong thing in their advice. Don't "hit on them". Be present, attentive and confident. If a girl likes you, talk with her more about your shared interests. Try to arrange group activities, where you can be together with other people. Build relation and trust over time. And remember that being confident means being ready to take "no" for an answer without making a big fuss about it. Good luck!
Delete all dating apps, and most social media. For me, I don't have apps for Instagram or Facebook on my phone but will log in in the browser if I need to contact someone.
I found that dating apps were not good for my self-esteem and were therefore counter-productive. It's like speed-rejection on a daily basis.
You just have to get out and find activities you enjoy where you can also meet people. Dating apps were not a good tool for meeting people for me. I had success with coed sports though.
Just forget about chasing women for a bit and work on yourself, which happens to also include some coed activities. Some areas have kickball, coed softball is everywhere, get out there and do something, build up confidence instead of letting dating apps and social media drag you down.
If there's a 0.01 percent chance I'll find a girl on a dating app then it's better than the zero percent chance I have without it.
I'm honestly sick of being told to "work on myself". I've been fucking doing that. I've lost over 100lbs and I'm in therapy. I've been making friends. I am working on myself. It doesn't help.
I thought it was bullshit advice when people told me that too.
I think the key is that when you "work on yourself" it's not necessarily about losing weight, becoming more attractive, getting a better job.
For me it's more about gaining confidence and improving your own self esteem. If deep down you don't feel like you're worth dating, then you won't exude the confidence that will be required to be attractive to someone.
If dating apps are helping you meet people more than they are killing your confidence and self-esteem, then by all means continue to use them.
For me, they just made things worse.
yea man, women are just another breed
Women are just people. I just don't understand why this particular group of people seem to enjoy inflicting emotional pain on others.
Sounds like you have major insecurities.
Also, try other platforms than Tinder, like Boo.