Trans Teen Hatches Nefarious Plot To Undergo Years Of Medical Treatments And Counseling To Win At Swimming

Not just any swimming, but some amateur or extracurricular school event!

Unpopular opinion (on Lemmy and coming from a guy who doesn't have an issue with trans people): you shouldn't be allowed to compete in sports that have biological birth sex restrictions as a trans athlete if it puts you at an advantage. So basically, if you were born biologically male, you shouldn't be allowed to compete in female sports--even after you've transitioned.

My niece is a competitive swimmer. If a trans woman kept her from winning the competitions she's trained so hard for, getting up at 4am for practice, spending weekends training or at meets, etc, thats absolute horse shit.

We don't let people take PEDs and compete.

This is the weakest of the arguments for trans rights. There's a reason they want everyone to focus on it.

We shouldn't be allowing them to frame the conversation around the one area where identifying as whatever you want actually affects other people.

The Onion has been on a hot streak lately.

Edit: from May but still true lol

These people also never consider that they're measuring the wrong thing. If they're taking the position that the effects of testosterone from birth in trans M-to-F kids gives them an unfair advantage due to bone density and muscle mass, then they're failing to take into account that there are a number of natural health conditions that produce elevated testosterone levels in women as well.

I'm not saying this to be funny, but women with stubble especially around the chin often have elevated T levels, often due to PCOS. There truly are some women who are "built like a man" and they're not trans - at least certainly not in the way we use the term today. They're natural, their bodies just work differently.

Banning trans kids isn't going to level the playing field in the way they say they want to. Measuring things that testosterone affects like bone density would.

Not to mention the bigotry, the prejudice, the psychological trauma of existing in a world where people call you evil and an abomination and a cheat for merely wanting to play sports.

Aha, wait until she takes up chess, darts, and competitive crocheting... RIP cis women :'(

Pick your battles, people. Insisting that trans women be allowed to compete in women’s sports is just not a winning argument, even among people that might be willing to otherwise oppose other trans restrictions. All it does in reinforce anti-trans attitudes.

This isn’t some invented fiction. Here is a trans powerlifter that just came in and started shattering records.

Haven't some particularly haenous talking heads on TV literally already said this? Perhaps not in directly declaratory language at someone, because that's begging for a defamation suit, though I have absolutely heard Republican scum make this exact accusation in the general case several times against trans people.

Wow, the phrenologists race realists transphobes fell for this hard.

This was one of the Onion's more brilliant articles. Absolutely loved it. I showed it to someone who rants about trans girls in sports and they got quiet. The truly good Onion articles make the object of their satire instantly recognize the logical fallacies in their own argument and get uncomfortable.

The author of this article was laying in bed and thought, “AHA! I can set the internet on fire!”

I love it.

Unpopular opinion (on Lemmy and coming from a guy who doesn’t have an issue with trans people): Transpeople are people too and aren't going to just go die in a ditch because the thought of losing to one makes you upset.

I used to have strong opinions about this, but then I realised that I'm not trans, I'm not female, I'm not an athlete, and to be completely honest, I couldn't care less about women's sports. And judging by the fact that a women's premier league football ticket costs about £5 and the stadiums are mostly empty, most other people don't care either. Certainly less than seem to care about the sanctity of women's sports.

It's probably going to be more complex than a blanket yes or no, and will involve individual sports bodies doing things on a case-by-case basis.

Wait I thought people could be trans without medical treatments and counseling because gender identity is a construct and not reliant on one's secondary or primary sex characteristics but rather reliant on their decision to identify with a gender they were not assigned at birth. Like I get it is the onion, but I thought people who think you have to have gender dysphoria or medically transition are called "transmedicalists," and much like "terf" I'm fairly sure "transmedicalist" isn't a compliment.

I'm not trans though so I could be wrong, but this is how it was clearly described to me by a nonbinary individual, a trans man, and a trans woman, all of whom I am friends with and one of whom I was dating at the time, so if I misunderstand so do they, I didn't make it up myself.

People can want two things at once, onion. If a guy who competitively swims wants to be a woman and competes against women, it's an unfair advantage. Go back to writing articles about the annual ninja parade.

Odd, here's women's records and the weightlifter in question isn't on this list: https://www.openpowerlifting.org/records/women So what are you really trying to say?

The issue that I think is highlighted by the article is that it presupposes that the transathlete is undergoing hormone suppression. That isn't a prerequisite to participate in most sports, and to require it would require disclosing more detailed medical information than might be prudent.

So, while the study is small, it is also not representative of many instances of trans athleticism. A transwoman not on HRT is just as much a woman as one who's been on it for years, according to advocates, and should be equally eligible to participate in women's sports. If that belief isn't held, you'll be labeled a transphobe and bigot as well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Took a moment to realize this was the onion.

Should a trans woman be allowed to beat the shit out of a woman in a UFC fight? I'm not questioning this person's decision to transition, I'm questioning the rule that separates genders in sports (the UFC thing has happened and it resulted in a broken skull). If you have to separate genders for one sport then you have to do it for all.