Trump team argues assassination of rivals is covered by presidential immunity
Trump team argues assassination of rivals is covered by presidential immunity
Former President Trump’s legal team suggested Tuesday that even a president directing SEAL Team Six to kill a political opponent would be an action barred from prosecution given a former executive&…
Former President Trump’s legal team suggested Tuesday that even a president directing SEAL Team Six to kill a political opponent would be an action barred from prosecution given a former executive’s broad immunity to criminal prosecution.
The hypothetical was presented to Trump attorney John Sauer who answered with a “qualified yes” that a former president would be immune from prosecution on that matter or even on selling pardons.
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Trump argue Biden should assassinate him
Congress would impeach Biden SO FAST so he could then be prosecuted.
... Unless Biden also made it impossible for Congress to meet to impeach him. Which is obviously against the Constitution, but there's nothing to be done about it as long as Congress can't impeach him.
Checkmate, fascists.
... wait
No, see if Biden wants to be impeachment proof, he just needs to arrange for a "group trip" for all Congressional Republicans to "a nice farm upstate." He can be generous and include tickets for the conservative Supreme Court justices.
Biden would never do this and I wouldn't want him to, but Trump is arguing that this would be 100% legal.
I mean… not that I or anyone should advocate for something like that, but honestly… if Trump openly states that he wants to do this to anyone he deems as an enemy… well… Trump isn’t currently in power… and so anyone who currently HAS power would be a fucking moron not to try and strike first knowing Trump WILL have them killed.
I mean, we are not talking about a game of checkers, people.
We’re talking about actual fucking dipshit fascists who will gleefully damn us all in the ever-accelerating climatological extinction we face in the coming next couple of decades.
Fascists will happily kill every man woman and child, whether they be those who would cure cancer, create cold fusion, or build room-temperature super conductors - if they ever showed disloyalty to the fascists’ despotic whims.
This “we go high when they go low” performative bullshit is a losing game if the other game participants are the only players willing to always go low.
Or, hear me out, get rid of qualified immunity. You guys aren't a kingdom FFS. And sorry, Biden is at a minimum fascist adjacent.
And sorry, Biden is at a minimum fascist adjacent.
care to back up that assertion?
Sure. Leaving most of Trumps policies in place as well as supporting a genocide in Palestine. He also hasn't done anything to reverse the genocide on the Indigenous people in the USA, if you want to be spicy. He hasn't done anything about the clearly disproportionate violence against non-white people, and he allows the hate speech and othering to continue unabated, providing a nice scapegoat for the country's problems without him having to lift a finger.
There's also the ongoing imperialism of the USA, and their hundreds of military bases across the planet, asserting control over numerous populations. While this isn't necessarily fascist, the common argument used for invasion into other countries is that "we need to bring them freedom and Democracy, and our Western values". And again, there is still an occupation in Iraq by the USA military, under Biden, where these were clear "reasons" for the occupation.
So, is it fascist to allow the continuation of things that may be considered fascist when viewed together? Probably. Especially when you lead the largest military in the world, and the second largest economy, no one else has the power to sign a paper and end the atrocities. Well, at least some of them.
Colonialism isn't domestic Fascism. Fuck off. We have an election to keep our country in existence. Shut the fuck up. You're a distraction. Shut up.
Wow, that's the line of argument you chose? "We export our fascism, it's not here at home!"
Who said mutually exclusive? Order of operations. You don't get to be idealistic tomorrow, if we die today. But stay home in December. Prove your point. And whine about how we go high (which I agree is the worst thing we do) but then stand by and elect Trump. Sick logic big dog.
What do you mean you have an election to keep your country in existence?
Israel and Gaza are not on the US' presidential ballot. Fending off a fascist autocrat that will make this our last semi free election, is on the ballot. Any argument about anything else is moot, and staying home is a vote for Trump. Intellectualizing doesn't change that which is why purported leftists on Lemmy are either pathetically stupid, russian/GOP trolls, or edge lords.
Also if assassination of a political rival is legal unless the congress votes to impeach, what prevents the president from also assassinating a few congressmen in order to not get impeached ?
what prevents the president from also assassinating a few congressmen in order to not get impeached
That's the plan. Assassinate ALL rivals and all threats. It's just a step up from suing people for him.
Yep. All his political rivals. What an insane thing to say when you aren't president.
So either Trump wins here and gets assassinated or he loses and has to stand trial lol
It might save us a lot of trouble.