Trump? Biden? No thanks as voter interest in 2024 is already waning
The 2024 election season is barely 5 days old, but many Americans already want it to go away.
Gotta love the apathy propaganda.
That’s what most of the political articles posted seem to be. It’s always one of three things:
It feels like one big disinformation machine.
Or, read the article and see why so many don't feel like voting for either and then push the Dems to CHANGE.
And push them to change by participating. Primaries is where change happens. Vote for the person that aligns with your values, campaign for them, run yourself, etc. Skipping the general or voting for conservatives only backslides us further.
If Democrats magically banded together and all agreed to the most progressive forward thinking agenda possible, not a single thing would happen because the GOP would block it. What happened the last time the Democrats had both chambers of Congress and the White House? They passed the largest healthcare overhaul in a generation that improved the lives of millions. We don't just need the Democrats to change, we need to put them in a position where they can make changes as well.
I did read it. It's hot garbage meant to reduce voter turnout.
A 3rd party vote is wasted, and failure to participate means leaving the decision to others. Both are foolish choices.
It's a primary...
The article isn't just about the primary. It's about an anticipated Trump v. Biden election, and idiots who think it would be a good idea not to vote.
Hear hear, and as far as that goes I'll personally be voting for Williamson
But when it get to the general election, whoever's the Democratic party nominee has my vote
(Also, I would vote for Biden over Phillips if those are my only choices)
I don't want either of this redundant old farts running this country. I'm voting for Biden though because I'll not a fucking moron.
This is my favorite way I have ever seen it said
“People can't pay their bills, credit card balances are through the roof. Inflation is high. Democracy is in peril. Immigration is out of control. So, there's a lot of pain going around.
Well, one of those things is not like the other. Let's see if we can improve that quote a bit,
People can't pay their bills, credit card balances are through the roof. Inflation is high. Democracy is in peril. Lazy morons like me who haven't had an original thought since the Clinton administration are still getting paid way too much money to be experts. So, there's a lot of pain going around.
Much better!
Fuck that I am voting against republican 100% for the rest of my life, also not taking polls or talking to news people about politics.
why cant we just call it what it is; fascism vs democracy. names irrelevant
Is there no alternative democrats this time around?
If you're ok with another Trump term, sure.
I'm not a voter in this country, just trying to understand, where is the democratic primary?
There's multiple and independents, green party
But no democratic primary?
The long track record of voting the lesser evil has gotten us to the point now. We are choosing between two genocidal old men. If there was ever a time to take a stand and change course, it would be now. Democracy will always be on the line if you're infinitely choosing between two forms of evil.
vote biden because other choice is bad and choosing an alternative is bad too and not voting biden would be fascism
confused how being forced to vote for one person and party is democracy but hey not allowed to vote would not know
confused
No you aren't. You know what you're doing.
Why don't liberals vote for trump and push him left after the election? That approach has worked wonders on Joe.
"I'm completely disenchanted from the political process at the moment," said Grace Freeman, 34. "Right now, there’s just no way I’m going to vote for Joe Biden again. I don't believe in his leadership as an American, especially as a Black American.
"And I'm absolutely not voting for Trump. He's a terrible option," Freeman said. "I might vote for a third-party candidate or not vote at all ‒ and I’m a voting rights advocate!"
i have recently gotten a harsh response from lemmy about this, but i am 100% with Ms Freeman on this. i WILL NOT vote for Biden and i would sooner die than vote for Trump.
i absolutely think this is a valid response to our current situation.
i absolutely think this is a valid response to our current situation.
You're an idiot if you truly believe that.
You ARE voting for Trump. You wont accept it, but a 3rd party vote supports the GOP candidate. Your feelings might be spared from not having to check that Biden box but you are absolutely 100% helping Trump. Not trying to be harsh, that's simply how math works in a first past the post voting system.
All this comes off as is petulant, ignorant, and unimaginative.
It's unimaginative because nobody who spends even half a minute thinking about the consequences of the election could come away believing there would be no little to difference between the two outcomes.
It's ignorant because it displays a lack of understanding about how the FPTP US election system works.
It's petulant because it's akin to demanding the system work for you, rather than you working within the system. You're refusing to participate in a choice that will affect the lives of hundreds of millions of people just because a system that hundreds of millions of people work to produce doesn't function the way you want it to.
You must really like Trump. GOP voters will not vote 3rd party. And they ALWAYS show up to vote. So go ahead, throw your vote away. Help give Trump the boost he needs.
3rd Party baby! LET'S GO!!!!
You'll have an easier time destroying or taking over one of the two parties and taking their place unless our first past the post system changes
These people refuse to acknowledge math. It's not even a close call.
