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Maybe then they'll stop selling male to male extension cords
What‽ Why would such a thing exist ??? 🤔
Testing your electrical panel? and how fast the firefighters are to get to your house?
Ob it's far stupider and more deadly: hooking up your personal little generator so you can backfeed electricity to your house during a power outage.
It's even more stupid and deadly than it sounds.
RIP power company linemen who’ve checked the power’s cut off, ‘til somebody pulls that stunt
this is sadly actually one of the largest use cases, it's called a dead-mans cable (for good reason) but it's how many northern residents run generators in the winter during power outages. Cheaper then running a bypass switch (which can easily be 300-500$ to buy plus install cost) by a huge margin. They just throw the main breaker prior to running the generator. It shouldn't be done but it happens more frequently then you would expect especially in the antiqued houses that may not even be up to code in the first place
Don't you need one of those to use your tesla as a house generator
There's a specific process and kind of panel you need to back feed power into your home
Basically your panel needs to have it setup so that it can either be powered by the generator or the grid. 1 or the other but never both at the same time.
Um, no. Normally you would use a regular male to female extension cable for that. Your electrical panel would have a male plug on the wall which is specifically wired up to safely provide power to your home.
teslas specifically don't generate electricity
what is going on in this thread?
"As a" implies knowledge that it is not a generator but can effectively be used as one.
"I ran my Christmas lights without paying attention, and now the plug is on the wrong end. Can I just have a male to male so I can feed them the wrong way?"
Or adapters to plug a 30A device into a 15A receptacle
I've seen these used in low income homes where the basement electricity is paid by the landlord for coin operated washers. Then someone gets their electricity cut (lack of payment) so they use these cables to jump the outlets and steal electricity from the landlord.
The dude just went to a hardware store and bought an extension cable and a replacement plug head. Snipped the female end and added the male in like 5 minutes.
The only practical usage of those things is jumping a generator to a house during a blackout.
Edit: yes please bring on the down votes for me sharing a story about how the poor use these scary cables. Real nice.
And that "practical use" kills linemen.
I think the correct way to jump is to flip your main so you're disconnected. I'm probably talking out of my ass tho.
I don't own a generator nor have the need. Just basing this on what I've seen in the wild.
The more correct way is to install a switch that does that, so you can be connected to the grid or to the generator, not both. It's basically what you said, but it doesn't trust users to remember to do it correctly
Does such a switch exist?
It does, there's even automatic ones so you can have the generator kick in after a second or two without power and shut off when the grid comes back up
I watched a video on it a week or two ago, I think the general term would be an interlock
Yes, in theory that would work. But they actually make main disconnect switches for this in the event that the main breaker fails. It's a mandatory install in all grid tie electrical generator systems (including solar).
I keep hearing this as the "Reason" but never backed by anything that makes sense. I've never needed to jump my generator to my house, and don't particularly care to even in the event of "disaster" so don't attack me like I'm doing this...
If you successfully suicide jumper your generator to the grid. Wouldn't the collective load of all your neighbors stuff kill the generator? (eg bog it down to the point that it turns off? [if it has no breaker]) Also wouldn't the load of literally your whole neighborhood trip off the breaker in the generator(or in the panel)? Doesn't this leave it as the only "risk" is if you happen to turn on the generator as the lineman themselves are specifically holding a live wire with an active connection to a ground/neutral before the previous stuff can happen? Or only if they happen to isolate you and then you turn on the genny after? Wouldn't you agree that this last thing would be an incredibly rare?
And I can never find an article where a cable was determined to be the cause of an electrocution...
Now because the internet is the internet... I'm not advocating for using suicide cables... There's much easier reasons why this is a terrible idea (exposed live contacts being literally the primary one). But I just never understood the "lineman" argument with all the stuff that would have to go specifically "right" in order to do that kind of harm to a lineman.
You have one article from 1989 from a 3rd world country and think that's analogous to what we do in any 1st world country?
Further your article doesn't state the cause of the lines being energized. There's no evidence that a persons generator caused this.
Since you actually addressed NOTHING that I've brought up.
Do better. Snarky asshat.
Puerto Rico is a US territory. The US is by definition not a third world country.
https://up.codes/viewer/puerto_rico/ibc-2018/chapter/27/electrical
And doesn't adhere to US electrical code.
Virtually all latin american countries are third world. Puerto Rico is latin american.
Their own people say it's third world. https://www.abc57.com/news/only-on-puerto-rican-businessman-says-home-is-third-world-country
The US is by definition not a third world country.
Depends on the definition. Originally used to simply describe the participants of WW2 and the cold war... Since the cold war, it's definition has more aligned with economics and industrialization rather than simply what side a country was on during a war. It's clear by my use of the term that I meant the modern definition, especially since we're talking in 2024... and not in 1989.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/third-world-countries
The modern definition of Third World
However, the meaning of Third World changed after the fall of the Soviet Union (and the end of the Cold War) in the early 1990s. "Third World" lost its political root and came to refer to economically poor and non-industrialized countries, as well as newly industrialized countries. Under this modernized definition, Third World countries are those that display economic, social, political, and environmental issues such as high poverty rates, economic instability, and lack of essential human resources compared to the rest of the world.
This shifting definition has led to significant confusion as to which countries could correctly be called Third World today. For example, going by the historical definition, nations such as Finland, Sweden, Ireland, and Switzerland were not aligned with either NATO or the Communist Bloc, and so were Third World countries. However, all four countries are economically prosperous today, and as such would not be considered Third World under the current modern definition of the term.
Adding insult to inaccuracy, when used in its modern context, Third World is considered to be a derogatory term that degrades countries which are developing and/or poor. This combination of confusion and disrespect has made Third World a largely obsolete term.
Under the "new" definition many parts of the USA could be considered third world, but I'm not going to argue that.
But fine, I'll modify my statement here...
Puerto Rico is a third world commonwealth.
Nobody... and I mean NOBODY has yet to address the actual electrical engineering part of my question. Instead we've gone off the political bullshit bandwagon. So I'm just going to take it that I'm correct, and that the original premise is bullshit.
Nobody… and I mean NOBODY has yet to address the actual electrical engineering part of my question. Instead we’ve gone off the political bullshit bandwagon. So I’m just going to take it that I’m correct, and that the original premise is bullshit.
Reads like:
Nobody... and I mean NOBODY (i.e. the fifteen people that have seen my posts on Lemmy) has yet to falsify my claim that I'm the second coming of Jesus. So I'm just going to take it that I'm correct, and you can kiss my holy, demi-god ass.
And the fact that you still keep addressing items not on topic simply shows that you're a dickwad. What's your point? I've made a reasoned argument. You've addressed nothing yourself except make really dumb platitudes.
I'm not interested in the question you posed, and I doubt you're sincerely interested in it either as you've spent all of your time worrying about Lemmy replies rather than taking a single step outside of whining to get it answered.
Edit: You're sitting there with basically all of humanity's knowledge at your disposal and you're like, nah, if the randos in this completely unrelated thread don't address my concerns about electrical code it means that my hunches are correct. This is you ---> 🤡
Saw a YouTube video about it. It’s not a big deal. You can plug them into an outlet and it’s fine.
Fun fact: when you plug in one side of a male to male connector the other becomes hot, if you somehow manage to plug it in you WILL fuck up your electrical system
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