Ok I nearly lost hope, since not being able to figure it out.
Ok I nearly lost hope, since not being able to figure it out.
Ok I nearly lost hope, since not being able to figure it out.
PLEASE. SEND. HELP.
_ First: this might gonna get a long one, but I‘m desperately looking for help!
Second: I‘m a total newb on Linux, so I have really limited Linux know-how.
Specs:
Asus ROG Strix G15DS-R7700X088W
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
2x 1TB SSDs; 1x M2 NVME with W11 running, 1x SATA
Goal:
Running Dual Boot with W11 on the first, M2 SSD (already running fine) and Linux (Nobara preferred) on the second, SATA SSD
Distros I tried:
Nobara 39
Fedora 39
Fedora 38
Ubuntu 22.04
Pop!_OS
Problem I run into:
I can‘t boot even from the LiveUSB without the „acpi=off“ option. If I do, I get just a black Screen (with Backlight still on) or, if I get into the Grub options first, there‘s only „booting command list“ visible but nothing else happens (even with „quiet“ disabled, no info on the Screen at all).
One thing I noticed, since my Keyboard, Mouse and Mousemat (Razerfly) have lighting, when I try to boot without the acpi=off, they go dark. And stay dark. With acpi=off the keyboard alone goes dark but then lights up again after 2-3 seconds.
If I run it with acpi=off, I can boot and install, but I then have to boot every time with acpi=off. This leads to the graphics driver not being recognized by the OS and running always in 1024x768 „software rendering“ resolution (even with proper drivers installed and enabled and nouveau on blacklist). So just let „acpi=off“ enabled isn‘t an option.
I did, after researching for several hours, try with various other options (nomodeset, acpi=ht, pci=biosirq, noapic, nolapic, and so on, tried a ton of those) but nothing did the trick - always black screen of death without acpi=off.
I did update my BIOS to the latest Version (306), did try every possibilty of options enabled/disabled (Fast Boot, Secure Boot, IOMMU, acpi settings in BIOS, secondary on-board Graphics,…) with no change.
Since I ran out of options (in relation to my google and reddit search skills), knowledge (total newb on Linux) and possibility to ask friends (that know more about linux than me), I‘m desperate enough to ask for help.
You are my last hope, before giving up on Linux with my PC.
If someone has an idea I could try or even a solution, I‘d be endlessly thankful!
If I missed some info or something is needed, don‘t hesitate to as for specific details._
Unfortunately, those kernel parameters have always confused me. There are other options for acpi (see doc).
Do you have any text output when you boot? Maybe the errors in the boot process might help find the right kernel parameter or problem.
Unfortunately no output at all. Only when changing parameters in grub and booting from there with F10/CTRL+X I get a line saying „booting a command line“ on which it stays forever without anything happening.
Nothing else I tried as parameter helped up until now, but will work through the links you provided, thank you.In grub, could you edit the
linuxline and removequiet splashand add a3to the end? Similar to https://www.baeldung.com/linux/boot-linux-command-line-modeIt should look like
linux /boot/vmlinuz.... root=... ro $vt_handoff 3. You should get some output then which you could take a picture of (don't know how else to share it).You can do it with
acpi=offandacpi=on. There's alsopci=noacpi, but I've never tried it.
I am away on vacation and may not check back regularly, sorry in advance.
Is this only on LiveUSB? Have you installed to the SSD with acpi on and checked if it boots correctly?
If it is just the liveUSB it sounds like when you have acpi on it power cycles/changes the driver or something with the usb ports and causes the live USB to disappear while trying to boot from it.
Are you also booting UEFI or Legacy? That can change some of the answers.
I installed Nobara with acpi=off (because no chance to boot/install with acpi on) but even if installed to the SSD, it doesn‘t boot up without the acpi=off option.
Booting UEFIWanted to add, that I am 100% sure now, thag it kills my USB Ports, when trying to boot without the acpi=off setting
Unfortunately I didn‘t took any steps forward since, but trying googling/tinkering ahead…
You are my last hope, before giving up on Linux with my PC.
Don't worry by putting too much pressure on you mate.
You've made a bad bet with both Nvidia and Asus hardware. Both are known to make problems sadly. But we can fix it, I'm sure of that!
I've had that problem too a long time ago.
I think it might be because of the USB-stick.- What tool did you use to flash it? Try the Fedora Media Writer, Ventoy, Rufus, Etcher, or any other tool you tried before
- Use another USB-stick
- And another port
- Eject the stick safely, don't just pull it out
- Deactivate the CSM in the BIOS. It will make compatibility with many other OSs impossible or hard.
- Secure boot should be fine on most popular distros
- Reset the BIOS settings (but don't forget the CSM!)
Regarding my first paragraph, I recommend the
-nvidiaand/ or-asusimages from universal-blue.org. Depending on if you want to use the PC for just gaming, or general use, you can give Bazzite a shot. Otherwise, the Silverblue and Kinoite main images are great too.
They have all drivers baked in if you select the right image.Oh, and you could consider getting a second NVMe for Linux too. The performance will then be even better!
If the tips from above don't work, tell my the results. Then we will troubleshoot more. Remember, usually Linux is just plug and play, and doesn't require any fiddling. For most PCs, it's just "plug your stick in, select next next, wait 5 minutes, done".
@Guenther_Amanita
Ok I went through the universal-blue.org docs quite fastly. Downloaded the ISO, installed it on the USB with Fedora Media Writer, tried to boot from it - Unkown TPM Error. Googling says to deactivate TPM, but I have no option in UEFI to deactivate TPM.Tried by deactivating Secure Boot, but didn't do the trick unfortunately.
Started again into Win11 and suspended BitLocker (enabled, not by choice...)
Reboot into USB - now I can go through the grub menu without any TPM Errors. Phew. Up to the last option "Install" and afterwards I get the well known black screen with no info, no cursor, nothing. Just the lighting of my USB Devices going off completely.Now, didn't try with acpi=off, but since the behavior is the exact same as with every other distro I tried (in the meantime I also tried with Mint and even GarudaOS...) I guess that I could boot with acpi=off, but just up to the point, where something (e.g. nvidia drivers/gpu or efibootmgr) relies on acpi and it doesn't work because it is off... so hit the same wall again :(
as for CSM, i searched again through my UEFI and there is absolutely no option for CSM. Will go through Google and ASUS again tomorrow in that regards.
I've also had problems installing uBlue with their net-installer. I had to download the official Silverblue and then rebase.
But if you said this issue persists on many distros across, and that those settings are also probably not causing the problem, I can't help you much.I don't think Bitlocker should be the issue, since you're installing on another drive.
I will also search in the meantime with you together.
@Guenther_Amanita
Thanks mate, appreciate your words!What tool did you use to flash it? Try the Fedora Media Writer, Ventoy, Rufus, Etcher, or any other tool you tried before
Did try the Fedora Media Writer, Ventoy and Rufus up until now
Use another USB-stick
tried with 2 different already to exclude and issue with the stick
And another port
did already, swapped between USB-A and USB-C and even USB2 and USB3.1 Ports, unfortunately I have always the same issue, no matter the port.
Eject the stick safely, don’t just pull it out
always do
Deactivate the CSM in the BIOS. It will make compatibility with many other OSs impossible or hard.
already saw posts/comments about it while googling, but wasn't able to find any option in my BIOS regarding CSM - but will go over it again to make sure I haven't missed it
Secure boot should be fine on most popular distros
ok, good to know...
Reset the BIOS settings (but don’t forget the CSM!)
did this right just before answering (except the CSM part, see my answer above), didn't change anything
Regarding my first paragraph, I recommend the -nvidia and/ or -asus images from universal-blue.org
will read through the docs, since I know very little about Linux yet, I'm not that familiar... just thought I'd download the ISO from the projects page and give it a go... will report back for sure, thanks!
Oh, and you could consider getting a second NVMe for Linux too. The performance will then be even better!
will def. consider it, if I get it running with proper driver and everything :D
For most PCs, it’s just “plug your stick in, select next next, wait 5 minutes, done”.
Kind of what I expected, but I'm not afraid of fiddling around to get it to work. Most of the time there's a learning curve by fiddling, but I kinda hit a wall with that :D
Thanks for taking the time and commenting, I'll get back at you once I worked through everything. Really, thanks, appreciate it
edits: typos, formatting
One more thing, I‘m about 100% sure that booting without acpi=off „kills“ my USB Ports after Selection in grub… will now try to research on that
I can't help you with the issue at hand but I'd recommend you to cross-post to https://lemmy.ml/c/linux to reach more people.
@Atemu
thanks for the suggestion, I just did a post over there, hopefully the crossposting works as intended (since there is no "crosspost" button anywhere).
appreciate it
Hello, you've already probably tried this but just plugging in.
Have you tried changing HDMI / DP cables / ports? Is it possible you're running your screen from your motherboard instead of your graphics card?
If not the case, have you tried swapping from graphics card to your motherboard HDMI output whenever you get the black screen? Might be a case of Linux using the wrong graphics output...
Good luck on your endeavour!
Thanks for taking the time to comment - yes, did test that already. I even tried (responding to an answer on one of my reddit posts) by effectively removing the PCIE Nvidia card and tried to boot like that without any success unfortunately.
@Varen hey, I see this is an old topic but did you solve this? If not, maybe you could try to install Debian 12 in text mode (not gui mode) and see if it boots up properly after installation. You don’t have to keep Debian, I am just wondering if a text-based install can help in your scenario.
@darth
did test that as well, but didn't help as the kernel didn't boot up at all.
In the end, after also trying to reach out to ASUS Support (and ofc without any proper solution from their side), I did replace my custom built, noname, (trash) motherboard and now it works flawless.So, I think it was something with the ACPI/DSDT Tables f'd up on the old MoBo and ASUS just couldn't (or didn't want to) fix that...