This is extremely concerning for me . Thoughts ?
This is extremely concerning for me . Thoughts ?
Should i repost this to any other /c/'s meant for this kind of things ?
EDIT: In case anyone don't understand what this is it is an issue raised by someone on lemmy git that when an account is deleted or banned it should also delete the data the data posted by the user. And one of the main dev nutomic is blowing it of like it won't affect me and maltfield is remainding him that it is illegal under the EU law and it also affects lemmy and moreover it is not ethical or moral . And i thought that was what lemmy was built on privacy, ethics and morals now i am dissapointed.
EDIT : For everyone saying there is no way i am not really ap roggrammer or anything but couldn't this work :
They could just roll it out on a new version and i think most instances won't mod it to remove that maybe some oddball ones will but not most. I know saved copies will be there but who cares no one is saving my 1000 comments but that is not the case with this .
It is copy pasted from one of my replies.
EDIT: Also it is not my intention to point finger to lemmy devs and i can differentiate their political stance and their work my only intention was to see that if this post gained enough traction they will reply or fix the issue.
EDIT : Relevant comment from @NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de about what if other instance don't delete your data.
So maybe those instances are breaking the law, but Lemmy by default should comply. You could say the exact same thing about any social media - scrapers can and do archive everything they can - but that doesn’t absolve the original platforms (e.g. Twitter) from having to follow the law.
EDIT : As just a person i can't do anything about it but i am certain if everybody pitch in the lemmy devs will listen and even though everyone seems to hate lemmy devs political stance i can differentiate with politics and their work and i find @Dessalines@lemmy.ml to be very responsive so i am gonna mention him and see what he thinks about it instead of trashing lemmy devs on speculation (i don't know nutomic's id) even though i don't agree wuth nutomic's response in this case i don't share the views of many people in the comments and don't associate this post with them.
EDIT : I just want an option to purge my data when deleting an account that you can enable or disable.
EDIT:Ok i just woke up and am catching up with some of these replies and i wanna say i don't share any of their views nor am i affliated with them i never wanted to trash on the dev and that is one of the main reason i posted this on casual conversation i didn't think this would get this uncasual . All i wanted to so was draw attention to this problem so devs will act on it faster but since then i have learned lemmy politics does'nt work like that and as i am not the mod or anyththing i can't do anything about some of the comments except make it clear i have no affliations with them. Just keep it casual people. I too want these changes but maybe geemtting on the nerve if devs isn't the best way to achieve it.
Something @tyler@programming.dev chimed in .Your comments can be public, but your data is yours. That’s the whole point of GDPR. Think of an art gallery. The gallery does not own the art a lot of the time, they simply show it. The art is owned by the artist. If they want to take it down they can. The same thing applies here. Your data, you get to choose what happens to it in the eyes of the law.
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I accidently left this part out so uploading it.
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The idea that your data is private here is a lol.
I don't agree. That's a reductionist argument devoid of nuance and ignores challenges of operating decentralized social media to the scale of Lemmy or Mastadon.
👌👍 putting your data on random servers if which many if not most do not have a commercial or liable entity is private. Right.
As if commercial or liable entity sre actually liable in reality! Are you claiming that you have privacy on reddit for example?. Lol spez is selling your data to openai.
Given the choices I prefer the fediverse.
Curious who's downvoting you here. Why would anyone think anything here is private on an open federated protocol? Only contentious things IMO might be DMs.
Your comments can be public, but your data is yours. That’s the whole point of GDPR. Think of an art gallery. The gallery does not own the art a lot of the time, they simply show it. The art is owned by the artist. If they want to take it down they can. The same thing applies here. Your data, you get to choose what happens to it in the eyes of the law.
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You might hold copyright. Depending on your instances ToS, you might be assigning it. But we're not talking about if you "own" the data or whatever. This thread was about the privacy of that data on what is essentially public infrastructure.
This thread isn’t about privacy it’s about Private Data. Private Data doesn’t mean data that others shouldn’t see. It is explicitly defined in the gdpr as identifying data that is tied to a person. It doesn’t need to be private in the sense you are talking about. That’s where you’re getting confused.
Even DMs aren't private, it's mentioned explicitly in the Lemmy documentation, admins can read them
Yeah, that's what I meant. It's controversial because a user might think they were private when they weren't.
In this context, Private Data doesn't mean it's Secret. It means Data that can be used to identify you (e.g. your license plate).
Maybe you should unmark your account as bot.
You don't think privacy is possible with an open protocol? You still have a lot to learn.