2y ago

64% of Americans say they wouldn’t support Trump: poll

www.marketwatch.com

185 comments

That is embarrassingly low.
- Sub 20% turn out for under 30's in TX is more embarrassing.
  
  "Voting laws in Texas are the most restrictive in the country. And voter turnout here is among the lowest, too. Maybe those facts are related."
  
  They’re bad, but Texans don’t vote. The laws don’t nearly begin to explain the turnout numbers.
  
  As a former Texan, it's quite difficult to vote. The work culture there makes it even harder but the state also purposely makes it as inconvenient as possible. If you're low income and don't have vacation time or anything like that it's really hard to get out and vote in-person. Now I'm in a state with mail-in voting by default and Texas makes me even more sick when I saw how easy it's supposed to be.
  More people could definitely make more of an effort there, but the barriers to vote shouldn't be overlooked imo
  
  Colorado? I grew up here and worry I don’t know how good I actually have it. I wouldn’t know where to begin if a ballot didn’t auto-magically appear in my mailbox. The system backing it up is so good that when it doesn’t show up magically, a new one is a phone call and a short walk away.
  If I don’t want to put a stamp on my ballot, I walk a half mile to drop it off
  
  Colorado?
  Oregon! That's cool to learn that Colorado is set up the same way. I wish it was implemented on a national scale though.
  
  Imagine if you lived in a state where voting in person is so quick and easy that’s it’s not worth sending in the mail in ballot automatically sent
  
  I have that option too, I just like to not wear pants when I vote now. They frowned on that when I tried to do that in person.
  
  Then what does? And what's the solution?
  Because I don't buy that Texans are just inherently worse citizens.
- It's terrifying if you consider the norm. Trump has something like 70+ felony counts, arguably the worst orator in history, and a verified rapist.
  He's still getting around 35-40% support consistently.
  It's fucking terrifying how good the Fox propaganda machine is.
  
  Personally, I find it far more terrifying how utterly stupid and gullible the average person is.
  and half of all people are even dumber.
  
  He lost the popular vote, twice
  The average person isn't our problem, our political system is
  
  Yeah the last few years since Covid especially have taught me that however utterly stupid and gullible we thought people were as you said, it turns out they are WAY stupider than we ever dreamed possible. And THAT is what is terrifying to me - I already knew people were plenty dumb so to see firsthand how badly I overestimated them...
  
  Very unpopular opionion: He's a very good orator, even though he can't form a coherent sentence. He gets his points across with out actually speaking them. His followers hear him on a purely emotional level and he inspires their extreme loyalty and devotion.
  
  When you consume talk radio, Facebook, and Fox News, it understandable that you would think he is the greatest President ever. He's not, he was the worst President ever.
  
  Some people process loss or being lied to in different ways. And some people take time to process that loss more than others.
  Denial: The election was stolen!
  Anger: We have to storm the capital!
  Bargaining: We were just trying to protect our democracy.
  Depression: Biden is just as bad. lt;----- Most people are here.
  Acceptance: Trump committed election fraud and is going to prison for it
  Though I think many MAGA folk will be stuck on depression for quite some time.
  
  Give them time. They can still make their way around to
  "See? I always said he was a crook."