Linux @lemmy.ml Ascend910 @lemmy.ml 12 mo. ago

Oracle has declared war on Redhat & IBM. The enterprise linux war has begun

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Here is the source blog post from oracle: https://www.oracle.com/news/announcement/blog/keep-linux-open-and-free-2023-07-10/

RedHat really fucked up with this move. I know RedHat employees and everyone from RedHat I met so far was proud they work there and how much open source meant to the company. I guess there will be more and more redhatters looking for new opportunities in the coming months.
- But Oracle? How are they better in any way? RedHat still writes FOSS software. Oracle just profited off it being easy for RHEL customers to migrate to Oracle Linux. They do add on top of RHEL, but they could built a distro themselves too.
  
  This article reads to me like satire from Oracle.
  
  PS: I don't like what RH done either.
  
  Never meant to defend oracle. I dislike them even more than IBM.
  
  IMHO Redhat cloud was just as proprietary as oracle's. Sure, Redhat was one of (if not the) the greatest contributor to open source, but since acquired by IBM it seems the momentum is going down (I don't have any data on this, only a few articles like this I've reaad)
- Yes, it was indeed a really stupid move.
- IBM
  
  Everyone keeps saying redhat this, redhat that as if they're talking of an independent entity. IBM bought redhat, and probably to run it into the ground too. Fuck IBM.
  
  By the way, I still don't believe oracle's "commitment" to open source, but that writing was a cool slap to IBM's face.
Microsoft is probably considering to release an enterprise Linux product right now. Perhaps called Windows Subsystem for Enterprise Linux.
- “Weasel News…”
- Don't they already have Azure Linux?
Let them fight, and rock on with Debian.
- No, we need to get Canonical in on the action. 3 way brawl to the death!
  
  Canonical has its own issues. Security updates to packages being put behind a paywall called “Ubuntu Pro” even during the LTS window is driving people away from Ubuntu right now as well.
- Exactly
Begun, the Enterprise Linux Wars have.
Begun, the git clone wars have.
Yeah. I wouldn’t say I’m a huge oracle fan - and maybe this is pandering - but ibm’s move was such shit. It’s plain manipulation of gpl terms and does not really honor the intent.
Where there's money, there's war 😬

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Oracle does a have a point though, they did release ZFS and BTRFS as open source projects. Granted, RH has done the same with other software packages, but not something as important as a FS. ZFS was a finished product, BTRFS not so much, but still, these 2 are greatly valued in the open source community.

Not siding with Oracle, I don't like them one bit, but facts are facts 🤷.
- Oracle's implementation of ZFS is Proprietary software. The original version was developed with an open source model By Sun microsystems, which was bought by oracle. And Oracle contributing to the Linux Kernel with BTRFS isn't that ground breaking
  
  Still, no one else did it... I mean, after RaiserFS, was there another FS released under GPL that was a viable alternative to EXT*?
- RedHat are key contributors to a stack of open source projects aside from the kernel itself. For example they are one of the lead contributors to QEMU, far ahead of Oracle.
  
  RedHat were key contributors
  
  And now they're barely pedestrians.
  
  I know, but let's face it, QEMU is not something you absolutely need to run an OS, like an FS for example.
- @0x4E4F @Ascend910 also dTrace, the proper instrumentation system
Oracle and their stupid PR stunts
Only the Taco Bell distro will survive.
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