Trump Georgia election interference case hearing
Trump Georgia election interference case hearing
A judge is holding a hearing Thursday on a motion to dismiss the Georgia 2020 election case against Donald Trump on First Amendment grounds. Follow here for the latest live news updates.
This is happening right now.
Never a good sign when a defense lawyer starts trying to rephrase the prosecution's argument, and the judge has to step in to correct the defense lawyer.
Subjective lol
So is the Chewbacca defense their whole plan?
Confuse people until they can't figure out how to decide?
Trump lawyer is currently trying to make the case that Trump had a First Amendment right to interfere with the election.
People have the right to say and do all kinds of illegal things. The First Amendment doesn't protect you from the consequences of those actions.
Repugs just can’t get this through their thick skulls - freedom to act does not grant freedom from consequence.
Is he honestly claiming that electors are not public officers because they only serve for a short time?
Yes, that's exactly what he's doing. It's gotta be hard to be a Trump lawyer and try to defend this crap.
Stickied because this is important.
The case that Trump lawyers keep referencing is US Vs. Alvarez which is worth reading up on.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Alvarez
Alvarez was elected to local public office and introduced himself in a hearing as a Marine of 25 years and winner of the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Neither of which were true and ended up being prosecuted under the Stolen Valor Act of 2005.
That act was struck down by a 6-3 Supreme Court decision, but Alvarez remained imprisoned on fraud and other charges.
The key differences between his case and the Trump case is that he didn't make the false statements to the government, he made them to the public, AND, they weren't in service of a larger conspiracy.
they weren’t in service of a larger conspiracy.
Yeah… because it basically was the larger conspiracy.
Edit: lol reading comprehension, derp
I think they're referring to the Alvarez case with those comments.
Prosecutor basically completely disassembled the defense lawyer's absurd argument.
Ha "you can't charge him with filling false documents because he was caught trying to file them, so they technically weren't filled."
This is either the best or worst lawyer in history
Oh please just put him in jail already.
There is exactly zero chance he ever sees the inside of a jail cell even if he's not re-elected as president. He's white, rich, and too well connected.
I'm not sure your last sentence is entirely accurate. He's white-ish (orange would be more accurate), rich-ish (highly overleveraged), and connected-ish (those that are not in prison are jumping ship).
Willing to concede the white/orange portion, but for a man who allegedly is worth billions he's having trouble scraping together enough money for bond. Those connections wouldn't even step up to post it for him or loan him the money to post.
I don't care if he spends the next 20 years drinking daiquiris on the beach; I just want him to go away.
Tell that to Mr. Epstein who was ostensibly more wealthy and who did not commit suicide in a jail cell.
They jailed Martha Stewart...
I was in the car for a bit and i think i heard them say that lies are good because they help you understand the truth. What?? Did that really happen? Honestly it's all so crazy that i can't remember what was real and what was a joke/meme anymore.
Yes. That really happened. My jaw 'bout hit the floor.
Isn't that one of the tools of fascism? And the kind of thing Bannon talks about - "flood the zone with shit".
Now we are at "we couldn't have impersonated electors because the electors weren't real electors anyway because we filed some bs election conspiracy lawsuit that wasn't dismissed yet". (I think, it's hard to follow his rambling)
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That whole "fake elector" argument was mind-blowingly bad.
Omg. "Calling them fake electors is mean, so you should dismiss this case"
I'm waiting for one of these goofballs to start mainstreaming the qtarded Bircher Society stuff about how capitalized names are not your "real" names and how it's not a "real" court if there is a flag with fringes on it (cuz something something Maritime Law, lol), etc....
I don't care if he spends the next 20 years drinking daiquiris on the beach; I just want him to go away.