Reddit Anti-woke meltdown

And the reply rofl

Do you even live in the West to have a practical understanding of wokeness and how it plays out in real life? Or is your understanding of it totally technical, based on what you've read about it on Twitter while residing in India?

My understanding of wokeness is highly technical. I was published in the peer reviewed journal of woke studies

Wall of text post utterly demolished by a single sentence.

Non-Newtonian racism. It's both solid and fluid.

The ottomans were actually pretty bad especially in the latter half of their existence

are they just using the word "woke" to describe any random person that's not loudly US-style right-wing/conservative?

See the non-woke people are polite enough not to be racist to my face, therefore they aren't obsessed with race.

Weird, I look white and no one ever says anything like that to me. What does that say about you?

I literally in the same day had two people tell me that because I am white I am a colonizer

that's an actual thing that happened

So you're white, an American, and do not consider yourself a colonizer. Quick question: How did your family enter the country?

I am not angry with you because I am not one of these two people who haunts you. You do seem annoying tho.

The point is that being "woke" does not mean hating white people. It's just a buzzword term white supremacists use to justify their racism.

I think we might be missing some context here lol

A bunch of t-tankies called me a c-c-coloniser and I said what I said is I told my mom

Classic colonizer behaviour. Doesn't even recognize that they are colonizing even when they are told they are colonizing while in the act.

, I guess you must be an Eastern European like this guy, no?

OK now tell me how calling out the racism against Indians in Britain supports the anti-white crackdown against you? Because that's what that original post is about...I know its about comparing Indian racism against woke 'racism'... but Jesus, the original OP, and to an extent, you, both sound like you're on a similiar whataboutism thing....

i didn't personally enslave people or massacre the American indians to make this country, but i am the eventual offspring of of the people who did, and i benefit from their atrocities simply by my existence and more importantly by the racism that echoes in every corner of the laws my ancestors made to crush and bind the people they stole the country from.

I didn't do it personally, and maybe not even my family. I don't know when my folks originally colonized this country, but they came here from another country and took an emptied spot after the red carpet was laid.

it's not like i run around begging people for forgiveness. I am here now, and now that i am, the very least i can do is accept that my progenitors, my benefactors, destroyed a people and enslaved another in order for me to exist at all. Not only that, but my skin color gives me benefits (mostly of the doubt, but boy is that a big one) That makes me a colonizer. Cuz you know, the people who our ancestors crushed are still fucked, the opression still exists, the ripples of what they've done have lasted and will last longer than either of our lives.

And you likely are too, right? You benefit from the things your ancestors did. In fact, one of those ripples echoing through time is me, and another is you. What's the big deal with accepting that? It doesn't lower your worth as a person. You and i are here, no matter the circumstances. Accepting how we came to be can only improve our understanding.

I get that it's frustrating when people don't elaborate on it. It's one of the reasons smug Tumblr "leftism" that came with no theory was frustrating and alienating. However there is a lot of stuff about colonialism, neo-colonialism, and how it intersects with leftist theory and why it's important to know it. It's easy to find material. Also it's not the end of the world to be called something that research would confirm the best thing to do is accept it and work to make the world better in spite of your station. It starts with theory and moves toward praxis. I understand, especially if you reflexively know colonization is bad, a bad thing. It makes you feel bad. But part of that is a call to action instead of lettingit get under your skin. It's what you do with the information that is important. "Everybody is a little bit racist" isn't an excuse to be indifferent it's a reminder to be vigilant. I know I got some latent sexism from my youth so I just gotta try to stay aware and think before I react, to use a personal example. Does it sting a little when somebody says "all men are.." sure it does. But instead of letting it bother me I stop, consider where the criticism is coming from, and remind myself that the patriarchy is a complex and nefarious reality that is experienced more harshly by people that don't look like me. It's not a nuanced statement but there is enough truth to it, and legitimate grievance behind it, that my job is not to pop off with a "not all men" but to be considerate of these factors and use material history and intersectional theory to apply that nuance.

Lmao at least you keep good company