2y ago

Russia's Luna-25 spacecraft crashes into Moon

www.bbc.com Russia's Luna-25 spacecraft crashes into Moon

The unmanned craft was due to make a soft landing on the Moon's south pole.

The unmanned craft was due to make a soft landing on the Moon's south pole, but failed after encountering problems as it moved into its pre-landing orbit.

It was Russia's first Moon mission in almost 50 years.

Russia has been racing to the Moon's south pole against India, whose Chandrayaan-3 spacecraft is scheduled to land on there next week.

No country has ever landed on the south pole before, although both the US and China have landed softly on the Moon's surface.

No report on whether or not Russia was attempting to use repurposed anti-ship missiles like the ones they use to attack schools and hospitals here on Earth.

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2y ago

Russia's Luna-25 spacecraft crashes into Moon

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Russia's Luna-25 spacecraft crashes into Moon. India's Chandrayan-3 expected to land on Wednesday.

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Russia's Luna-25 spacecraft crashes into Moon

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I didn't know they have schools on the moon. Or was it a power station?
- Maternity ward.

No report on whether or not Russia was attempting to use repurposed anti-ship missiles like the ones they use to attack schools and hospitals here on Earth.
Yeah, Russia should be like heckin' wholesome NASA and their peaceful apolitical former SS officers who never bombed any hospitals or schools instead.
- Ah yea. Who can forget the US operation
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Osoaviakhim
  The US created the first liquid propulsion rocket. While Stalin, oh, imprisoned their scientists in the gulag.
  Plenty of SS officers and other Nazis went to Russia to make the R-1 clone of the V2. Which, btw, had a failure rate higher than the US clone.
  
  Ahh yes, bringing German scientists and technical staff to the USSR to learn from them and then repatriating them back to the GDR 5 years later is exactly the same as putting an SS Sturmbanfuhrer who was personally in command of a facility where slave labor was worked to death into leading roles in your space program into the 1970s.
  Let's also just conveniently ignore the fact that the R-2 rocket was developed by Korolev's team in direct competition with the G-1 rocket developed by a German team working in the USSR. The USSR chose the R-2 over the G-1 specifically because it didn't want the Soviet space program being led by Germans and by 1950 had repatriated most of the German specialists.
  After 1950 the Soviet program was largely indigenous, led by Korolev and other Soviet citizens. All of the major achievements of the Soviet program were led by Soviet citizens, scientists and workers.
  
  Remember that time Americans and West Europeans thought it a good idea to put a literal German Nazi general as head of NATO? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Heusinger lol fun times

Aww man…
I like it when space stuff works and when it explodes it makes me sad :(
(Unless there’s a billionaire on board)

Comments exactly what I expected. Disappointed how many people here are knee jerk celebrating the failure. Feels like being in a room full of Republicans when someone says anything about Mexico or Islam.
I hope they fix their shit for Luna 26 for the sake of science and human discovery.
- You know normally I would applaud them. Happy when China has a success. Screw Russia though. This was a propaganda mission to get a win. The fact that did it in a rush to beat another country is typical of their philosophy. There was little science in this but mostly just dick waving.
  
  This was my impression. This was a rushed propaganda mission for prestige using existing material.
  Still, I'm sure there would have been some useful science done, but the main point of the mission was that Putin's regime would have been able to crow about how great Russia is doing.
  Of course, if it had succeeded, it might have spurred some competitive spirit in other space powers.
  
  I still haven't ruled out that Putin was trying to invade the moon.
- Well your intention is admirable but childish.
  Nobody gives a fuck about Russia's scientific endeavours when they're re starting the biggest military conflict in Europe since WWII and threatening everyone with a nuclear conflict.
  Most probably any scientific progress that could be made will not be used for mankind's progress but for the current militaristic propaganda.
  
  All of Apollo took place during the Vietnam war. Somehow I think you'd feel differently about that.
  
  Disagree. I hate the russian goverment and its fascist invasion lf Ukraine, but a moon lander is great scientific progress no matter where it comes from. It is sad that this happened and its why the lack of international cooperation in space exploration is bad for humanity as a whole.
  
  Ignorance to the actual Nazis in Ukraine and their military is also severely childish.
- I thought Russia said they would not share any of the science.
  
  Even if that is correct (I just don't know, I don't follow this stuff), external observation can still be useful.

Special lunar operation.

“This is all the West’s fault!”
- This but unironically. In general though, there is nothing more galling than liberals complaining about Russia. You made it this way. This is on you. First you destroy the soviet union, then you reconfigure the politics and economy of Russia, and then you have the audacity to complain about the very thing you caused.
  
  Liberals: the downfall of USSR/Russia
  LO fucking L
  
  "You made me do this" is literal abuser logic.
  
  Ah yes, well known liberal checks notes George Bush.
  Russia cannibalised itself after the Soviet Union fell, didn't need any Western help there.
  
  The soviet union destroyed itself because it was an unstable pile of dogshit.

What's the problem. It was a lunar lander. It landed on the moon. Mission accomplished.
- Nobody walked away from that landing, so it definitely wasn't a good one. The fact that there was nobody to walk away from the landing is a mere technicality.
- I now have flashbacks to computer games in the early 80's.

Obviously it was not a moon rocket, but a Drone aimed for Kiev.
- The moon needed to be de-nazified.
  
  Is Moon NATO member?
- It was actually a moon rocket
  
  my mistake, surely
  I mean its obvious, now that you've pointed it out. really. good work there. super neat. well done.
- The Moon looked too much like a kindergarten. The lander got confused.

Well, hopefully India has more success.
- Whatever scientific data humanity would gain from such a success is in no way worth the decade of triumphant screeching from Hindu nationalists that would result.
  
  There’s gonna be nationalistic screeching no matter what, like I’m sure it felt in the 30 years after the US moon landing
  
  But would it be worth it if Russia did the same?
  (Though, this isn't mentioning they targeted the moon because all their missions to other planets ended in total failure. This one did at least make it to it's target, so that's better than Russia has done in a long time. Their space program, along with their government and military, is a joke.)

The fall of the Soviet Union and its consequences for the human race
- Moreso just Russia. And that's little wonder with their current mob leadership.
  
  Yeah totally, juuuuust Russia. It's not like the whole eastern bloc is in ruins and progress has been more or less stalled for 30 years. But nah m8, just Russia

As someone fond of science, its kinda heart breaking as many people spends decades of work to make this stuff and their dreams get crushed when these fail. Hope they fix and launch another one.
- Failures are a part of science! I hope russian scientist dont lose their funding and can continue to contribute to space exploration.
  
  For obvious reasons, I am surprised they have any funding at all right now.

The US should put a lander together out of trash for shits and giggles and have it land perfectly.
- A 1979 TV show about a guy who put together a junk spaceship to salvage junk from the moon: Salvage 1.
  My teenage self found it entertaining at the time. Hmmm, now where did I leave my parrot? I wonder if he could help me find a copy…
- Or just land people in a few years. They're working on a several hundred ton lander right now!
- On the remains of the ~~soviet~~ russian one
  
  Not coincidentally none of the space agencies out there that are capable of this would find it worth their time to launch a mission just to teabag another nation.
- Well, I mean NASA pulled a spare mars rover out of their R&D testing labs, modified it's toolset a bit, and sent it to Mars for a second soft landing (didn't they use a sky-crane for both rover deployments?). I'd say that takes a bit more skill than landing on the Moon. But I don't play Kerbal Space Program enough to know how much
- They are doing it with the artemis mission

Aw man that sucks
- On the one hand, science yadda yadda knowledge for all mankind etc.
  On the other hand, failure and humiliation to Russia.
  I'm actually a big fan of space exploration and of the exploration and exploitation of the Moon in particular, but under the current circumstances I'm not terribly saddened on the balance.
  
  It sounds like you don't care that much about science if you're actually considering national humiliation to be as important as scientific progress.

Of course the BBC has to throw in that bit of kkkracker cope at the end. Nevermind how challenging a south pole landing would be relative to elsewhere on the moon.
:bathroom:

I always suspected that it was just a missile painted like a rocket.
- It launched on a soyuz, which has an extremely long history. It first launched in 67. All rockets back then had icbm roots or aspirations. But for a long time all icbms use solid propellent for better long term storage rather than liquid propellant like soyuz.
  
  I hear you saying that they're very similar platforms. I'm saying that the neccesary differences that would make it a scientific rocket were simply missing, an empty shell, a smokeshow.

It seems that a dish washer's controller isn't suitable for moon landing after all.
- They should've upgraded it to the Logitech G F710
- If a dishwasher had any chip capable of processing anything at all it would be suitable, which is pretty funny.
  
  Most modern dishwashers have some kind of processor, and yes they'd be perfectly capable of handling the necessary computations.
  
  I take it you haven't seen the guy that got Doom running on a dishwasher?

Good news:
moon's no longer haunted
- Haunted bybthe specter of comunism.
  
  America good, rest of the world bad
  
  You weirdo, it's in reference to a famous meme

Hexbear's reaction to the news
- This can't be right. I was told that Hexbear loved Putin. What have you done with the real Hexbears?

No report on whether or not Russia was attempting to use repurposed anti-ship missiles like the ones they use to attack schools and hospitals here on Earth.
I mean, who wouldn't support attacking schools and hospitals housing Nazis? Wouldn't you OP?
- You can set a trap for libs by getting them to say that Azov is defending their homeland, can hide where they want, and Russia is a war criminal for attacking their hiding places.
  Agree with them, and then start talking about how the same also applies to Hamas and Israel is an even bigger war criminal.

American components, Russian components. All made in Taiwan.

I wonder what happens to the spacecraft now. I guess it's just stuck there right?
- Yup, no way of getting it back
- The act of lithobreaking is inherently destructive.

wish there was video, probably looked pretty goofy

The russian wording on the mission failure is something to behold. Luna-25 "ceased its existence".
- I'm surprised they aren't denying it ever existed at all.
  
  You shouldn't be, I'm quite certain Roscosmos has never denied or hid anything about something that was always open.

This is the best summary I could come up with:
Russia's Luna-25 spacecraft has crashed into the Moon after spinning out of control, officials say.
The unmanned craft was due to make a soft landing on the Moon's south pole, but failed after encountering problems as it moved into its pre-landing orbit.
The spacecraft was scheduled to land on Monday to explore a part of the Moon which scientists think could hold frozen water and precious elements.
Roscosmos, Russia's state space corporation, said on Sunday morning that it had lost contact with the Luna-25 shortly after 14:57pm (11:57 GMT) on Saturday.
"The apparatus moved into an unpredictable orbit and ceased to exist as a result of a collision with the surface of the Moon," it said in a statement.
Russia has been racing to the Moon's south pole against India, whose Chandrayaan-3 spacecraft is scheduled to land on there next week.
The original article contains 174 words, the summary contains 141 words. Saved 19%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

No mention on a cause in this article, curious what it was
- There was a moon in the way
- Cutting corners due to the money being spirited away by corrupt officials. This is Russia after all.
  
  Nah, it was obviously sabotage by Western Ukrainian gay Nazis.
  
  That's part of the cause, not the reason why it actually failed. The people at Roscosmos do work pretty hard even though underpaid and understaffed.
- The burn to slow it down into a low orbit went too long, which made the resulting orbit too low (so low that it intersected the surface).
  No word yet on why the burn was too long.
- Cause of failure: built in Russia
- The front fell off.