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Dear Americans, I'm not writing this to gloat... But what the fuck have you let happen to your country. Health care is a human right!
I'm currently in hospital, for a second time in a month. First time, I came in with a "very nasty pneumonia", which turned into sepsis, I needed surgery to help clear the crap from my lung. They sent me home after 14 days. They also flew me from my local small hospitals to the bigger one I'm in now.
I was home for 4 days and started getting severe chest pains around my heart. So I'm back, feeling way better now, is a long weekend so no doctors to make decisions.... I'm stuck in here till Tuesday at least. On Tuesday it will be a total of 24 days. Various medications and treatments etc...
My expected bill at the end of all of this is $0.00.
The only real cost is the gas from hour each way for my family coming to visit. All meals are covered.
I honestly have no idea how much my time here is costing the national health service. The are no numbers discussed, everything is just what you need to get better.
That's the Standart in about every developed nation on this planet. I don't get it either what the USA is trying to accomplish there.
A thing that isn't obvious seeing that insanely inflated prices is, that these are prices for individuals and won't be payed by insurances. If you have let's say a 70k hospital bill, the insurance might just say we only pay you 8k. The hospital then takes the 8k and writes of the other 68k as a loss. This results in the hospital not earning any money on paper and they don't pay taxes.
My favorite thing to look at, when it comes to these inflated prices in USA Healthcare ae the prices of saline solution.
Have a read if you're interested.
I don’t get it either what the USA is trying to accomplish there
Privatize profits. Socialize losses.
Sustain and further enrich an elite class of wealth. At any cost.
That is very confusing.
Thousands of dollars, but also somewhere between $3 - $120, what a fucked up system.
But what the fuck have you let happen to your country.
Uh. It hasn't changed.
"All men are created equal"
IS SLAVE STATE
Always has been
Same as it ever was...
Same as it ever was...
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Same as it ever was...
Yeah, I logged into the app here in Sweden, sent a message with what my problem was. Got a reply in 2 days, saw a doctor in a week, she suggested surgery, it was scheduled in 4 weeks. Had the surgery, got a bunch of meds, was off work for a week with 80% of my salary. Paid 500sek, like $50.
I fucking love paying taxes.
No, you don't understand. You didn't get treated yet, you're still waiting to be seen. If you don't pay for medical insurance then you wait 62518262 years to see a doctor and you die before you ever see them. Also they decide to let you die because something something government death panels.
-American media on universal healthcare.
Seriously though, almost any person you talk to in America that is against universal healthcare magically knows people in Canada that have died waiting to be seen or have 6 months wait times for their very painful conditions. Every time... Even people like my mother who I know doesn't know any Canadians says she does....
American "rugged individualism" has murdered compassion and empathy and has done nothing but foster greed amongst all of us. It's me me me me, MY tax money going to treat YOUR disease, taking up space making ME wait to be seen. Turns out ultra individualism makes for a shitty society.
That "in socialist European countries you get put on a waiting list" canard really doesn't wash anymore, either, since here in capitalist private insurance America I am at this very moment being forced to wait two months before I can even have my initial consultation with a doctor.
Two months.
There certainly are waiting lists for non-urgent stuff, and it does kinda suck. But FFS if you need help NOW you get it.
I'm in socialist New Zealand.... The current new government is trying to be less socialist, but they are getting a lot of bad press because some of their policies are just mean.
Total wait time... Hmmmmm let's see, about the amount of time it took for me to say "I'm having trouble breathing, my name and DoB" so they could look up my NHI number, all of 3 minutes.
I think you have hit the nail on the head with the "rugged individualism" comment. Just across from me is a dude from Sri Lanka, broken leg at the local mountain bike park. He deserves the best treatment we can give him, I have no idea if he has travel insurance or doesn't really matter, he is here we treat him.
It really is amazing how we went from "sharing is caring" to "you get yours yourself, I got mine already."
Your comment on the Sri Lankan dude is also spot on, a human being shouldn't have to suffer just because we're too selfish to help them whether it's by our taxes or whatever. It should be a point of pride that "our" country provides for whoever needs help and that our collective actions make that possible. That's an America I'd be proud of. Not the ultra capitalist greed machine we should be proud to be a part of because "GDP number big"....