PMs: change my mind

That asshole shouldn't have a meme, cmm.

Just use Calvin.

Mine's more like an LLM - exposed to a vast quantity of technical terms that they don't really understand, but can mash them together well enough to make coherent-sounding statements in JIRA

*bad managers

A good manager and/or team lead is great, but it's a job difficult to get right

As some others mentioned it depends on context. My project managers do a lot of shit I don't want to do : handling budgets, discussing project scope with clients, handling authorization request to external APIs (I'm in a big company) and also most PO stuff (writing tickets and handling sprint ceremonies).

Sometime they are a bit annoying because they freak out about deadlines and ask question every 10min while you try to focus and actually solve the bug, but at least they are self aware that it is because they feel helpless in this kind of situation 😛

Also, more about the proxy thing, sometime I have to explain technical things that simplifies and then they will probably explain it again to clients with a second layer of simplification. But I usually never hear about this again, which probably means that they manage to reassure client and maybe add a bit of bullshit on parts that don't really mater, which spares me a lot of time overall.

I see a lot of people saying that your managers are bad managers, but I think your organization also put them in a badly defined role.

I am a PM in biotech. Please let me know if you'd prefer scientists or engineers to manage people and projects.

A good project manager also returns 403 forbidden to middle managers trying to scope increase projects or poach project members

depends on the manager. go figure, many people have had poor management. and that in itself is pretty self perpetuating because how are you going to learn decent project management if you've only ever had shite examples.