Privacy @lemmy.ml trippingonthewire @lemmy.ml 7 mo. ago

Android 15 will run Bluetooth with your phone still turned off.

security.googleblog.com How we built the new Find My Device network with user security and privacy in mind

Posted by Dave Kleidermacher, VP Engineering, Android Security and Privacy Keeping people safe and their data secure and private is a t...

I saw this on infinity for Reddit earlier, I don't know if there's a workaround for this or not.

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Android @lemdro.id FragmentedChicken @lemdro.id 8 mo. ago

How we built the new Find My Device network with user security and privacy in mind

security.googleblog.com /2024/04/find-my-device-network-security-privacy-protections.html

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According to the posted link, the network can be turned off entirely if you wish, and you could just not use Google Play Services on your device, and that should also stop this.
They talk as if they're protecting our privacy when it's really a global surveillance net. The spin doctoring is insane.
the new google massive surveillance apparatus is ready to be deployed
Where is that mentioned? I can't find that in the article
Pixel 7 with GrapheneOS is looking like a good long term choice right now.
It seems like a waste of battery
Didn't iPhone been doing it for years so you can still track your lost phone even if it's turned off?

But this is Android, I'm sure there'll be work around if you don't want it. Personally I think it could be helpful.
OP blocked for clickbait.
RIP battery.
This is mostly Bluetooth LE so that you can use their new device finder network if your phone gets lost. Thieves often turn off the phone as the first step, so this may help a lot of people recover their devices.
The question is: when a phone is turned off is it really turned off? The amount of software that needs to be running to manage Bluetooth leds to to believe they simply kill all applications (including the UI) and most services and leave the kernel and a few other things running. I might be wrong, but I would like to see some clarification on that.
You can turn off the phone???
Can someone explain where the code for this will be located (aosp, gsf)? How can I make sure that it will never ever be activated? What Graphene's response? etc
Postmarket OS Here I come! Now just the problem of banking apps ...
I guess the recommendation of turning off the Bluetooth to save battery, or the sarcastic comment that usually says "bro, just turn off the phone if you care too much about the battery" are gonna be obsolete now aren't they?
This is Google's deployment of tracking apparatus, courtesy CIA. Heil America and thank the greatest country on earth! NSA programs, Patriot Act, CLOUD Act and uncountable activities were not enough. Banning Tiktok is not enough.

Google, its devices or software or anyone shilling it cannot be trusted. This is in the best interests of your privacy AND security.

I will also take a moment to remind of Google's Project Maven, where they used smartphone metadata collected using Google Play Services and Google trackers on internet to drone bomb Muslims in Yemen. Currently, they are facilitating a genocide of Palestinians, as have they done to Middle East for decades. https://www.wired.co.uk/article/google-project-maven-drone-warfare-artificial-intelligence

The only workarounds I see is preferring devices like the ones Huawei has, with no GMS thanks to US sanctions, or buying non-Google devices you can root and flash something as clean as LineageOS (not Graphene Google OS) or AOSP based custom builds. Boutique devices like ones with /e/OS, Murena phones also seem like good foundations to start with. On existing phones, disabling Bluetooth ability for any Google packages using ADB/Shizuku in addition to blocking any Google/Alphabet related domains using HOSTS rules will be a solid strategy.
Isn't that the normal behavior? I can put my phone in my pocket and still have Bluetooth

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