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The truth about organic milk: cows are suffering on even the most “humane” dairy farms

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Cows are suffering on even the most “humane” dairy farms.

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  • Humane meat and dairy is yuppie bullshit.

    • Why is it bullshit to not want your food to cause unnecessary suffering? If I have the choice of eating a burger from a cow that suffered it's whole life or one that was treated well, why would I not choose less suffering?

      Oh! You're one of those who things we should all be vegan...not gonna happen for so so many reasons, so why not compromise and reduce suffering in the world?

      Life eats life, that's how it works. Organisms evolved to eat meat are not inherently inhumane for following their biological imperative. Our factory farming system IS inhumane in that it causes unnecessary suffering, but that's a result of the scale of operations and our economic system.

      The acidity of our stomach alone is clear evidence we are evolved to eat meat, combine that with our need for B12, our teeth, length of intestines relative to other herbivores, omnivores, and carnivores puts the nail in the coffin for the idea that we are not meant to eat meat.

      • The acidity of our stomach alone is clear evidence we are evolved to eat meat, combine that with our need for B12, our teeth, length of intestines relative to other herbivores, omnivores, and carnivores puts the nail in the coffin for the idea that we are not meant to eat meat.

        You wear shoes, statistically you probably wear glasses or contacts, all of us have back problems as we ags the idea that we should do what our body evolved to is honestly kinda ludicrous. I mean heck, we are talking through wifi, wires and electricity. We both drive a car to get food through major distribution chains. Nothing in our lives is natural.

        Take some damn b12 supplements, the overwhelming majority of people, vegans and carnist alike, have a deficiency anyways.

        Life eats life, that's how it works.

        Yeah, but beans don't have a brain, nerve endings or a nervous system. Sure they are alive, but it's intellectual dishonest to think that a pigs and beans interact with the world in the same way. So yes, life eats life, but my life sustaining food doesn't feel pain. It has for over a decade now.

        Like, I feel you should read the article? The idea that you can kill something ethically is cognitive dissonance.

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