Reddit users who switched to Lemmy, what is the most annoying thing you have seen about Lemmy users?

Honestly, the insistence that Lemmy has better discussions than Reddit. Mostly even popular posts have too few comments to constitute any in depth discussion. I won’t be going back to Reddit but I miss the vibrancy.
- This but about how almost everything about Lemmy is spun as either good, or better than reddit's equivalent.
  Like the other day I saw a post about how Lemmy's active users were on the decline, trying to claim that was somehow good for Lemmy. Or back when Lemmy had its /r/place copy, there were plenty of people saying it was better than reddit's. Basically anything about Lemmy that's somewhat lacking has people desperately trying to defend it as actually superior.
  It borders on delusional at times. Yes Lemmy is good, but reddit is still better in dozens of ways, almost all of them related to user count. And this is coming from one of the people who deleted their reddit account and replaced it with Lemmy cold turkey - I haven't been back there (except for porn) in almost 8 weeks.
  
  Yes, I miss reddit for porn. Porn lemmy is lackluster
  
  but reddit is still better in dozens of ways, almost all of them related to user count.
  It's not though, because it's all locked away through an interface that doesn't work for many people. And it doesn't matter how good what's on the other side is, if there is a barrier that ensures I won't ever be on the other side.
- I still use both Lemmy and Reddit and I honestly think Lemmy is in a sweet spot where there are enough comments for a discussion but not enough to go off topic.
  Reddit discussions are never about the OP, they're always riffing on an off-topic joke that someone made in a reply to the already off-topic top comment.
  
  Eh, Lemmy has the issue where the activity is low enough that the substantial number of low effort comments and comments that regurgitate the same bland sentiment are overwhelming.
  These comments were annoying on Reddit and was my primary reason for leaving.
  Hackernews manages a better balance. It is not as active as Reddit but there are a lot of insightful comments that balance out the low-effort contributions.
  As an example: I’d happily happily throw a block party the day Elon Musk launches himself into the sun. I don’t need to see an article every time he takes a dump and the corresponding 50 comments about “elon is a menace”
  Or anything Threads. The amount of exaggerated and irrational commentary about that was incredibly offputting.
  
  It really depends on the topic. The big topics in Lemmy are better. But there's a lot of niche content that just isn't there.
- Same dog piling happens on lemmy as it did in reddit. You try to introduce any nuance for discussion on a circle jerk thread, and it's down vote knee reactions.
  I tried tildes, but it's the opposite problem. Pages of text for simple arguments that could be expressed in a paragraph, and people mincing words being too polite to get to the fucking point that they disagree. And if you're blunt and to the point, it ruffles feathers.
- Lemmy users also tend to be stuck in one mind set and that is they know what they are talking about all the time no matter what even if their opinion is actually kind of shit.
  
  In fairness, this is practically everywhere on the internet.
  
  "lemmy users", most people here have been here for barely 2 months. The site doesn't have a defined culture yet, if it ever will given its fragmentation.
  I get that you can't stand having to see opinions you disagree with, but you're really trying to prop up some punching bag here that doesn't exist.
  
  I love your you immediately got 4 replies proving your point. 🤣
- I half-agree with this. I think that this depends a lot on the topic and, while the smaller amount of comments does hurt discussion depth, the individual comments themselves partially offset this by being more thoughtful.
  And, while anecdotal, I think that there's a considerably lower ratio of comments with negative discussion value here in Lemmy than in Reddit. I'm not even talking about the out-of-place jokes (although they add noise), but shit like this:
  "waaah, TL;DR!!" discouraging in-depth explainations
  feigned lack of understanding as ad nauseam tactic
  context illiteracy
  unchecked assumptions towards other users, for the sake of ad hominem
  "trust me"
  Don't get me wrong; you do find this crap here, but IMO it's way less than in Reddit. And they hurt discussion because they either waste the time of the more thoughtful and knowledgeable users, or outright disengage them.
- I agree 100%. On Reddit you usually had the same style top few comments but under those you could actually see good conversation and discussions. Here everyone thinks they are right and you are wrong and nothing you can say can change that.
- Alright lemmy let’s give this guy the most in depth talk about why lemmy has better discussions than reddit.
  
  Lemmy isn't known for using bots to fill in gaps in user engegement, mostly
- Yeah, I miss hoping on some niche tech sub and saying that I was having trouble with xyz specific thing and I’d had multiple people comment that were super knowledgeable about that exact thing.

Tankies.
You can't have a discussion about anything without some tankie blaming it on Ukrainians / the west / capitalism, etc.
"Oh you stubbed your toe on the table? See, tables are oppressive furniture of the bourgeoisie. The Chinese government wanted to make all tables toe-stubbing resistent, but that would affect IKEA's bottom line and the pharmaceutical industry's profits. I have a source from tankiepeoplesmagazine to back this up."
- I made the mistake of mentionning social democracy once. This was followed by the most pedantic, insufferable and useless argument I have ever had on the internet. I had better discussions with wall. This was first and last time I was replying to those comments. It is easy to ignore anyway. Sometime you learn the hard way.
  
  I'm genuinely curious to see that ... do you have a link at all or something to search for?
- Omg, so much this. So fucking annoying.
- bourgeoisie
  Always makes me laugh when I see this. I'm tempted to start a hexbear bingo, it'll be the first one on the list!
- I almost never see this, but I see complaints about "tankies" all the time. I'm not even sure what a tankie is, but it seems about as stupid as the term "woke".
  
  Have a look at comments in any news article regarding Ukraine. They will simp for Russia just because they are not US allies.
  A tankie is commonly used to refer to someone who blindly defends the actions of the USSR, China, North Korea, etc. Going as far as denying human rights abuses and genocide.
  It's not the same thing as woke.
- What’s equally annoying is people who won’t shut up about “tankies.”
  Honestly, everyone across this argument sucks. But I wold like to point out, that not a single “tankie” has complained about anything in the comments here.
  You, however….
  
  this is a thread specifically for complaining about stuff you don't like.
  don't be so butthurt about it.
  
  Found the Lemmy user who is upset that someone called them out.
  
  What's there to complain? We get some breathing room, finally lol
  
  Yea, I'm with you ... the most "annoying" think about tankies is all of the noise about them as though they're some degenerate scum bringing down society.
  It's not hard to move past a political opinion you don't like, or a big and hairy political debate you don't have time/energy for. But it doesn't mean a whole bunch of people have to be shunned/exiled because they happen to trigger your inability to do so ... or that you have to whine about their presence all of the time.

- As a Linux user myself, it saddens me to see how much the Linux fandom is invalidating itself with its aggressive attitude.
  
  As a proud GNU/ArchHat Ubungentoo Linux user, I disagree. I need others to know and agree with my choice of distribution, desktop environment, shell (POSIX sh btw), untained patched kernel, AMD graphics card, and IDE (vim obvs). How else would I get to feel like I'm more woke than other users both inside and outside my fandom?
  Parody aside: It's one thing to politely discuss your software choices with other people to help them find things they haven't tried before. It's another to proselytize like a self-righteous prick.
  
  Linux isn't about the fandom, though. If someone is interested in a third option for OS, they will seek Linux because that's what it is, not because the fandom attracted them to it.
- I feel the worst examples is when you try to engage with the Linux people trying to explain why you can't use it and they're just in complete denial
  I like Linux, but I can't use it because I very frequently use CAD programmes like fusion 360 which run exclusively on windows. Mention that and you'll spammed with "what about FreeCAD?" From people who either have never used freeCAD and are just grabbing the first Google result for "fusion 360 FOSS alternatives" or are in complete denial over how goddamn shit freeCAD is like I'm sorry that is not a functional alternative.
  
  Oh man the FreeCAD discussion
  I also use fusion and while FreeCAD has improved significantly, it's still lacking in critical areas
  The replies are always "but it's gotten better"
  Yeah, and it still pops up and error and wrests control away if you dare select a dimension tool and points/lines in the "wrong" order
  
  Same boat. I do dev work and there is simply no Linux alternative for some of the custom tools we use. I tried dual-booting and running VMs, even got one with direct access to the gpu, in the end it is a huge time sink.
- Yes! As well as "Only ever use hardened ~~Firefox~~ Librewolf and Duckduckgo, every other product is the literal devil"
  
  I mean...we have quite a bit of evidence of at this point that Google and Microsoft are creating problems for the future of the internet and technology in general.
  I won't say they're the literal devil but I can't say I'd argue with anyone that says they are.
  Calling out horrible practices and encouraging people to use the alternatives that don't do that shit...yeah, I'm not seeing an issue.
- Were you online before Facebook? It was mostly nerds in the 90s and half nerds in the 2000s. You came to a car show and are upset that people are talking about cars. You're on Wall Street asking "what's up with all the suits?"
  Literally no one is going to tone it down.
  
  I never understood this either. "Why are users of an aggressively open-source service so adamant about using open-source software?" Especially when Lemmy's been around for years, so yeah it's cultivated a majority Linux userbase.
  
  But this isn't a Linux-centered instance.
  Just because the Fediverse is FOSS doesn't mean we have to shill out to everything FOSS on every instance.
  That is like claiming since the Fediverse runs on servers, we should all ditch our regular computers and phones and only connect over server hardware.
  It is okay to like FOSS, but it is an other thing to keep bringing it up ad nauseam, especially if the topic isn't even related. It only makes the Linux community look bad.
- Frankly, if you're still all-in on the Windows or Apple ecosystem, there's no way to pull you to Linux.
  The best Linux spokesmen has been Microsoft lately. I'm not using Linux because I necessarily want to. I want to keep using my clean version of 10, but they're taking that choice from me. I'm using Linux because I won't tolerate that shit at this point.
  So Linux folks can be as aggressive as they want, it won't move the needle either way. People are either willing to try it to escape Apple and Microsoft, or they aren't.

All the empty communities without any motivation from the creating user to actually be involved in their own community. I honestly think they should be deleted if they're not active. Inb4 "be the change/create your own". No, I don't want to run a community so I don't create a community. Neither should you. Nobody benefits from all these empty reservations of space. It might actually hinder the people who have a need for a community. It's like showing up at an empty store. "Oh I guess I'll go somewhere else for this then"

I’m annoyed by all those Facebook-type boomer comics you see on basically all meme subs. Reddit culture managed to get rid of them, but for some reason people here seem to love them
- Look, sometimes people enjoy brainless humor and that's okay. People have hard days. Twelve hours in the field days. Sometimes people are tired and just want something easy and that's perfectly valid.
  As the sages of old said, "It's okay to not like things. It's okay, but don't be a dick about it."
  
  I know, I don’t really care, I’m just replying to the thread :)
  It’s annoying but also interesting to see that people upvote different things
- Any example? Out of curiosity
  
  This would be the last one I saw. I probably have plenty more examples in my downvotes, but I don’t think they’re accessible on Lemmy :(

This platform is almost 100% idealism and politics. Any hobby/technical community goes completely inactive.

Lots of wanna be communists that are well intentioned but have little real world experience
- My wife studied sociology, that includes the work of gramchie, Dubois, Lenin, Marx.
  I didn't, but I got plenty of exposure. What's clear to me is that hardly anyone actually knows what communism is. That includes Allies and opponents of it.
  They all think they do. But they really don't.

It’s really goddamn preachy. There’s a real sense of superiority a lot of users have that I don’t recall as much on Reddit.
There’s also the fact that small communities are dead and it’s next to impossible to grow them, so you’re stuck with the same people on the front page every day.

Political extremists. So about the same as Reddit, though they seem to be a little more frequent/outspoken here. Also funnily enough the complete opposite side of the spectrum. Used to get called a dirty commie because I believed in Nationalized healthcare, but now I'm apparently a facist for not worshipping the CCP.
- This goes not only for the tankies, unfortunately...
- I see 1000 more posts against tankies then actual talkie posts.... so like... get off it.

The number of pro-communist posts in here is comical. The amount of anti-capitalist posts is almost comical. Obviously related to some degree.
The lack of posts outside of a few main news and politics communities is frustrating.
- It's sad so many capitalism cheerleaders migrated here, considering most of us are literally here fleeing capitalist greed rot.
  Some just refuse to learn. The sunk cost fallacy of "I've committed my life to this thing, and no amount of evidence will ever make me accept my mistake as a mistake!"
  Should have just stayed to be disrespected by Spez in the name of his profit. He's a good capitalist.
- do you think capitalism is good or something
  
  It's far from perfect, but it isn't the cause of every single issue anyone's ever had like people on here would have you believe
  
  Of systems that have been implemented the best systems have been capitalist based systems.
  
  Unironically yes
  
  Capitalism is the economic equivalent of Nature's own survival of the fittest.
  No one will claim that capitalism is being implemented perfectly, that's for sure, but the number of communist clowns on Lemmy is absurd. Bunch of 14 year olds trying to be edgy.

Just lack of numbers. Reddit's at it's best when I can use it to discuss some incredibly niche topic. That early 2000s RTS that nobody remembers? Got a few dozen redditors still posting memes. New indie game drops? There's enough redditors on it that we can talk about it.
But lemmy seems really bad for trying to enjoy any community that isn't a big political or meme centerpiece. Any particular game or IP that isn't a lowest common denominator? It'll get maybe 3 posts a month.
No more interesting discussions of gameplay mechanics or inspirations or character analyses, no burning out an entire workday browsing the top all-time and giggling like an idiot, it's just dead here.
The same massive numbers that made reddit insufferable for some are what make niche communities inhabitable at all.
- It's perfectly fine to use both platforms and still enjoy the niche subs on Reddit. It's a shame they're not all in one app/website but it is what it is.
- Hopefully if you start creating those topics/communities, people will eventually flock to it.
  That's what I'm attempting anyway
- Numbers are a double edged sword. Yes, Reddit has lots of active niche communities that are active because of its massive user base, but once you get to anything not niche, there are so many users that any sort of constructive discussion is nearly impossible are you're drowned out from the masses. Using Reddit only for the niche stuff (with ads blocked, of course) and Lemmy for anything else seems like a reasonable solution.
- Which early 2000s RTS?
  
  Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds
  An AoE2 licensed reskin that added new mechanics like shield generators and air units. Still have fond memories of it, and it's been absolutely wild to see that there's still a community for it after all these years.
- Earth 2150?

The sheer amount of pro-communist/pro-china comments is insane here. Plus the number of giant emojis that spam up the whole comment feed. Honestly, most of my real issues come down strictly to Hexbear users. A lot of their behavior completely ruins the platform for me.
That and the lack of fanbases for the things I like. There's very little Star Wars or Halo fan presence here. Feels like Star Trek is the only fandom with any presence here, so I have to go back to reddit for those things.

I'm left on the political spectrum but by and large y'all fuckers are over the deep end.

The amount of people that like to shit on the U.S. constantly... Like damn I get it, we definitely have problems, but people here would have you think it's like the wild wild west over here... I promise I'm not fearing for my life every time I go out.
The extreme left views (I'm liberal myself but some of the things people say here really have me scratching my head sometimes)
The amount of Windows bad, Linux good posts.
The amount of people that immediately shit on Apple because of privacy, but use an Android device that accesses the Google Play store (yes I know you can install custom privacy roms, but let's be real, how many casual users are doing this?)
People always asking if something is FOSS...
These are just a few off the top of my head.
- The amount of people that like to shit on the U.S. constantly
  This has been my experience too. It's really quite off-putting.
  
  I was born in Seattle. Grew up in Los Angeles. I was taught American exceptionalism and said the national anthem every school day of my childhood, K-12.
  And I believed it all.
  My parents, my teachers, my ministers, my neighborhood police, my news sources: They all fucking lied to me, and did so willingly and maliciously like PragerU. The people of the US are fine (no better or worse than any other) but the society that depends on lying to children and jamming them through a doughboy-processing education system to make them interchangeable, disposable, replaceable laborers and soldiers to be expended on billionaire vanity projects really needs to burn.
  The society of the United States sucks and, without comment on any other society. It needs to be set right. And I say that as a US citizen.
  
  Yeah it's a thing in most online forums but the reality is pretty opposite. It's a long dead joke at this point and I personally just roll my eyes and move on when I see it.
  
  You can usually tell they are Eurotrash or incel Eastern European within the first 6 words for those types. I just end up blocking them.
  I find most Europeans don't understand the size of the US and think thier tiny county somehow equates to what works in a country the size of the US. It's completely lost on them that the EU would be a more apt comparison and the dysfunction between the EU members puts the US dysfunction to shame, but the irony of that is lost on them. By comparison, the member states of the US are effectively a cohesive unit and we act as one and the states have each other's backs even when not required. We have interstate rivalry, but it's mostly good natured and completely forgotten when there's an outside threat. The EU, on the other hand, is a bunch of fiercely proud, independent entities that can barely function when lumped together and they tend to throw each other under the bus when it suits them. The hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance is incredible.
  The US has it's problem, oh yes, but the EU isn't an example of how to run a union by any stretch and what works in a tiny country doesn't work in one where a single state is larger and more populace than that entire country.
  When you can drive across a country in 2 or 3 hours, I just can't take it seriously as a country. It's like a clown car of a country.
- raises hand slowly
  my pixel 7 pro uses grapheneOS. been using it for ~2 years now. loving it a lot.
  
  it's been around for less than a year

The pro china/Russia stuff is super weird. Also the hex bear goons brigading everything.

Chill the fuck out with the linux supremacy. I hate windows too but linux is not as friendly and efficient as you think.

Despite being a techie myself, I'm frequently irritated by how much technical conversation there is on here. I seem to see comments all the time that use some unrelated computer programming concept as a metaphor or a similar non sequitur. It reeks of intellectual elitism and is just a reminder of what a small community we still are. I kind of miss the amount of 'normal' people on reddit with more varied interests. That said, generally speaking the quality of conversation on here is really high which is amazing.
- This. I can use Lemmy for politics and tech/science news, but not much else.

The obsession with Linux and privacy. Every post it seems like anyone using windows is committing a cardinal sin. I have had to use linux in the past, and let me tell you, I don't intend to go back to it unless forced to. I still have mental scars of trying to update my gpu drivers
- This! I use Linux on my laptop but also have a desktop that runs Windows 10. Some people here act like windows is completely unusable when in reality it's much more user friendly than Linux.
  
  You have a computer made after 2015, huh?
  Some of us are poor. Windows is quite literally unusable for me because the laptop I have it on can't make it past the "pin" screen, I had a choice between steal a new PC or learn linux.
  And now that I've learned I can never go back, there was a slight adjustment period but the ability to control everything on the system, the way it handles updates, the lack of bullshittery and candy crush ads, and ads in the file manager I hear they're pushing now on windows, the terminal which scared me when I started is now probably my most frequently used "app," the few windows only programs I need with no alts work in wine well enough, and if I reaaaaally wanted to I could upgrade PCs when I do have money and dual boot so I can still pop into windows if need be. And to top that, I was able to boot into a liveusb on the windows pc, mount the windows drive (bypassing my pin, btw) and rescue my files!
- You get that in any early adoption of technology. It tends to be techies who jump on first, whom tend to value those things.
- I would love to tell you that today things are much easier with Linux and that it's a seamless plug and play experience. And honestly,a lot of the time it is.
  But not always. Right now I'm waiting for a live USB to finish flashing so that I can chroot my corrupted GRUB.
  Still, at the end of the day it's probably 95% hassle free, and I can play AAA games just fine, without having to deal with Windows pushing me to use Bing on Edge. I understand that's not something a lot of people care about, so carry on. I just get excited about how good Linux is these days and like to share it with people.
  
  I feel like people were saying this exact same stuff back in 2008 when Ubuntu really started taking off. I used Ubuntu for years but it was always full of little quirks. The very basic stuff did feel simpler than Windows, but the moment something would go wrong it felt like you were stuck in the deep end.

Not the users but lemmy itself. Sorting by hot is pointless since you see the same post for days at a time. I get lemmy is small but shit it can't be that hot for that many days.

This place is a far worse echo chamber than Reddit, and mods fall right in line. I've seen too many posts get downvoted to hell for simple opinions, and other 'dissenters' get posts removed that should have just been part of open discussions.
I've said this before, even in a lighter tone, and those posts mysteriously disappeared. I'm betting this one will be removed too.
- You will tell people facts and you will get down voted because someone thought it's your opinion
- Mods are on a different level of power tripping here on lemmy.world. Just today my comment "rent free" got deleted by a mod (in technology) because "it might offend someone and that might lead to an argument." That was seriously the reason I got from the mod L4S for deleting my comment.
  
  that sounds like a fine use of moderation to me, it contributed nothing to the discussion topic
  
  I'm not sure in your specific case; no context, no conclusion. But in most contexts I'd probably do the same as that mod, or at the very least scold the user. Because most of the time, "rent free" is: two types of stupid (ad hominem, assumption), aggravating (it's often a taunt), and noisy (it doesn't lead to meaningful discussion). It's that kind of crap that makes the community less engaging for other members.
  @abbotsbury mentioned 4chan; well, that's one of the things that I've seen jannies there removing all the fucking time. (For free.)
  
  No soup for you!
  But hey, at least you got a reason. I think the squirrelly bastards just remove most posts without question so they can substitute authority over their lack of nuts.
- Reddit is Reddit's echo chamber, Lemmy is "pick your echo chamber".
- It's still up 3 hrs in!
  
  I've certainly had lesser infractions removed in less time. This must've slipped by the Lemmy police.

Bots copy pasting content from Reddit.
There are community filled only with that, no upvotes, no comment, no nothing.
When you finally block the bot those communities disappear as the bot is the only active user.
- When you finally block the bot those communities disappear as the bot is the only active user.
  And that's why the bot exists

If anything Lemmy users so far have been much less annoying than most reddit users. I feel like I'm reading through less garbage, and comment sections don't look like the same joke repeated ad nauseum.
- Of course you are reading through less garbage. There are like 100 million reddit users and like 10 Lemmy users.
- My experience has been different. I feel like I see the same, "Linux is better." Shit all the time. All the memes are also, "Windows user realizing this. Linux user not caring."
  
  ...
  When they're right, they're right
  ...
  
  People liking Linux is ruining your enjoyment of a FOSS platform? Tell me you appreciate the irony.
  You seem seriously triggered about something you've been reading in other threads and need to vent, so go off, let's here it.

Hexbear neonazi tankies one one side, overbearing blocking on the other.
- lemmy really needs a way for users to individually block instances
  
  Or common clients like voyager need it. should be doable. Would sell me on a client instantly
  
  I swear Jerboa let you block entire instances, something I desperately wish Sync could do

People not marking nsfw content nsfw.... Front page is a minefield whilst in public transport
- That’s the beauty of the federation. It’s not like a subreddit got nuked and is no longer available. I have this account on .world, if I want to see some titties I just move to another node in the wide world of instances. Like various neurons getting cut off from some synapses but still available by other paths.
- That and fucking sexualized anime girls. Fucking don't need that shit on my screen
  
  When I first joined Lemmy I was happy with how few anime subs I had to filter compared to reddit...but it seems like the horny weebs are starting to make the switch. I hate that genre (style?) where they draw everyone looking like children. Gross
  [Edit] love to get downvoted for saying that hentai with children is disgusting
  
  Use the block button and good luck.
  
  Lol really?
- I'm literally logged into an account for porn specifically, and I don't have this problem. I just selct "hide nsfw" and almost never see anything nsfw on all.

Some of them keep talking about their Ex (Reddit).

Incessant posts about Reddit (and Twitter).

The defederation topic and how it impacts me.
I'm an adult, if I find something offensive I'll either block it or ignore it. However, not giving me the choice offends me and IMHO goes against what Lemmy and the fediverse was suppose to deliver.
I understand (and read) the reason's why site owners defederate and I view it largely as "Lemmy isn't mature enough to support more granular blocking - yet", so I wait patiently and hope this trend towards defederation doesn't turn into a powertrip by site owners "for the good of their users...."
- Imo, defederation isn't the exile sentence everyone is making out to be. It is used like you said as a bandaid as a moderation tool, but really just about "anyone" can boot up an instance and have complete agency on which Instances are visible.
  I'd be more concerned if all the big instances ganged up together to form a whitelist club, but this this is a more complex discussion, and there is no sign of it happenning.
  
  I'd be more concerned if all the big instances ganged up together to form a whitelist club
  You'd still be able to join the instances directly, or join an instance that doesn't follow the big "whitelist club".
  Right now instances are already split across some lines, and you need accounts on an instance of a certain "group" in order to access the content from those instances... and that's a feature, not a bug.
  
  There's already shared bannlists in the works.
- Depends on the reason for me. I totally get why .world blocked those 3 communities (not a defed I know but still) given the possible legal issues and given the admin isn't a lawyer and can't afford to retain a high powered legal team. Blocking those communities until they have a legal opinion just seems like good sense to me.
  The hexbear thing - they're evangelical totalitarians politically. They believe what they believe and everything they talk about revolves around that and they need you to hear it, again and again and again. It's just mentally exhausting dealing with them, especially when a large part of their freely admitted m.o. is brigading/dog-piling.
  Being fedded with lemmynsfw didn't bother me, I hardly ever saw anything from it as I rarely feel the need to go on 'All'. I understand there were some anime jailbait issues? That's probably a pretty good reason to defed from an instance.
  So, and this is admittedly all from my perspective, I haven't seen any overbearing uses of defedding.
  And I think people need to realise defedding is not like banning. On reddit if a sub got banned it was gone. On Lemmy if one instance defeds from another, the other instance is still there. You still have the choice to view it.
  
  lemmynsfw didn’t bother me, I hardly ever saw anything from it as I rarely feel the need to go on ‘All’. I understand there were some anime jailbait issues?
  Were? Ok, maybe I’m old but I’m freaked out by how young some of the people look on nsfw communities and have stopped subscribing. Reddit had people posting that didn’t make me feel gross
- The instance isn't yours. It doesn't belong to the users. You are graced with being allowed to use it. The owner of the instance is the one that gets into legal trouble because you want to post your loli furry pictures to the world. If I ran my own instance I would be restricting content as well. And federating with an instance that hosts that shit forces them to also host that content.
  
  I get the feeling their argument wasn't 100% over illegal content (but I do agree - you shouldn't expect a bunch of individuals to try to fight potential legality issues, I certainly don't), part of it may have been in regards to all of the other reasons defederation occurs. Such as LW removing piracy communities for legal reasons, as opposed to Beehaw defederating from LW/SHIJW over the open registration nature of those instances.
  Thankfully my instance is mine, so I get to make those decisions for myself. Unfortunately I'm not surprised though that there seems to be a bit of a split between people who evangelized Lemmy as the "where Reddit can't decide to block content" (which I saw a lot of, during the sub protests) and then on the outside that's exactly how it looks.
  Telling people to host their own instance, or to have multiple accounts on multiple instances is probably the equivalent of the same thing being discussed here as the Linux evangelists who go "Well just use FreeCAD" (to use an example from further above) when they say they use Windows because they're involved in professional CAD work.
  There's a lot of nuances between Lemmy, Federation, and The Fediverse as a whole that gets left out when people introduce others to it and I've seen a lot of cases where that causes precisely this issue - it's sold as a one size fits all solution when that couldn't be further from the truth.
  I have no stance (I'm not here to tell other admins how to run their instances) on the subject of the matter in this comment chain, but that's how I see it when I try to "play devil's advocate" and look at it from different lenses.
  
  Illegal stuff? Sure block it, I totally respect the need to CYA.
  Blocking lemmit.online 'cause it's a bot, which yields low content and pollutes "All"? Block lemmynsfw, cause of NSFW content? ... well, as an adult I'd prefer I could make that choice for myself and have it governed by my own tolerances.

The wannabe communists and those trolls from Hexbear.

I'm a socialist but the level of communism here gives me a headache. Wish I could block the whole hexbear instance

What is a tankie?
- someone who's into communism less for the equality and more for the dictatorship
  
  IE, someone who likes the authoritarian governments who incorrectly call themselves communist.
  
  That's totalitarism

Lots more pro CCP shills on here. Smh.

Linux supremacist and the wannabe commies are pretty annoying.
Other quality of life features would be nice. Like searching for a specific post

not the users, but there isn't really enough discussion on here it seems like, just general memes. i like memes and shitposting but a man can't live on shitposting alone
- Try hackernews for meaningful conversations.

So I couldn’t help myself, and looked at a bit of your posting history.
Gotta say, you seem a bit angsty. If you have opinions different from what’s mainstream here (though I’m not sure arguments about Linux are really mainstream, even here), that’s all well and good, and a decent enough reason to not enjoy your time here.
But your engagement seems somewhat anger driven, and that seems to colour your challenges here, where feeling like you’re the lone voice of wisdom seems to fuel your angst.
- You got to it before I did. This whole thread is your typical asking a question as way to sound off about something else in the comments. Dude is grumpy and needs people to see.
  
  OP has a hidden agenda and he’s trying to stoke flames with his question and comments
- Snooping post history is a red flag, mam. Pretty low, and not a Reddit feature I'm particularly keen on retaining.
  So what if I spend all my time posting pornographic images of King Richard the third? Not really relevant to the argument at hand, is it?
  
  In this case it was relevant. And I wasn’t looking to nor did I cast any aspersions or generalisations based on any quirky or strange post behaviour. I only sought to understand what kind of negative experiences OP had with lemmy.

Obsession with Reddit, Linux, being communists. Everyone here is a former reddit mod/addict, I'm not surprised. This place is somehow worse than reddit in a different way.

Super opinionated people who are completely blind to the thing they're discussings shortfalls.
See: anything to do with Linux.
- It literally feels like a blast from the past. I remember being on forums in the 90s and early 2000s hearing all this Linux evangelism. Then I say "the second a user has to touch a command line, they're out" and everyone acts like this isn't a reasonable take.
  Thankfully though, Linux has evolved and ChromeOS and Android have shown how lower needs users and limited platforms like mobile can use Linux and not have to deal with the complexity of old-school Linux.
- You have NO IDEA what you're talking about
  /s
- I daily Linux and have not had any issues other than not being able to run Affinity Photo
  My games like Stray and Geometry Dash run fine under Proton though
  And I really like KDE Connect. I'm on XFCE but it works fine

The lack of them, I guess?
There are lots of communities, but many of them are absolutely dead. My fav subs were BJJ, Hajime No Ippo, Squared Circle, and CS Career Questions. None of them are active here.

Extremism - Reddit as its share but also has millions of "normies" to balance things out. Here there doesn't seem to be any moderates.
The platform itself is dysfunctional and will prevent any real growth in average users.
Just TOO many Linux fanboys/martyrs, it is a good OS but damn stop trying to go full on religion with it.

There are so many tankies here. CCP propaganda and Stalin apologetics everywhere.

I keep blocking any communities mentioning Linux on my feed, yet it still never stops.

As much as I'm skeptical about the unchecked power of corporations, I feel like Lemmy tech enthusiasts are completely hostile to the more mainstream kind of enthusiasm that actually like a well designed product.
Like, you can whine about the theoretical problems of a centralized service all you want, but if you're not syncing with OneDrive (or an alternative, though those are kinda worse) on your Windows computer you're literally sabotaging yourself. I could go on about other examples, but I'll limit myself.
I don't care if you think Linux is better. For the average person, Linux is incomprehensible. Now don't get me wrong, I like Linux too! I use Linux for my servers, and it's a great option to have. But the ideologues who push it to everyone are infuriatingly dumb, and serve only to push people out of the tech community.
As a whole, this site has too many ideologues, and not enough nuance. It's like the whole "Reddit atheist" phenomenon but worse: people here are unquestionably critical to an absurd degree, and refuse to accept that there may be alternative viewpoints on what they're saying.
And I'm not fond of capitalism either. I just think that the constant negativity is draining.

- Yeah, agree here, some people are still far on invested in what's happening over at Reddit.

The political opinions of the average Lemmy user are a lot more radical and the users themselves come off as a lot more arrogant than the average Reddit user.
Which is honestly shocking to me because I thought Redditors were bad. I block any community that is about politics or users that try to inject politics where it isn't pertinent.

People complaining about the promotion of FOSS on a FOSS powered site. Lemmy amd Mastodon are a golden opportunity to get people onboard with FOSS, no shit they're going to evangelize it. Not to mention the early adopters were obviously FOSS devs.

Everyone just talks about Reddit and Linux. Also people are just generally jerks on here. I don't comment much because I just see people getting dragged for not being as knowledgeable as others.

The most annoying thing is hexbear and that everything needs to be political.
Especially when it's that cringe combination of both

People here are way to eager to get into political arguments out of nowhere, usually in bad faith. The front-page is covered with doomscrolling content, being here too long makes me miserable and hopeless. The rest of the content is mostly tech stuff, which can only be interesting for so long.
What I miss from Reddit, is the variety of diverse communities, people having fun and polite conversations, a sense of humor, and a lot of happy content or stuff that's interesting but not limited to tech.
At this point, I feel like the technology is much better and the user base much larger, but the user group is so extremely specific.
I wish people from all political spectrums would engage in a civil conversation here and not reduce it to mockery and attacking. What's the point of discussion if no one leaves with something new to think?

Arguing about which instance is best / instance superiority / complaining about users from _______ instance.
My friends, we are on a collective group of web pages being hosted an run by individuals as a fucking hobby. Shut. Up.
To the admins, thank you.
- Yeah, when the call went out for some help, I really wanted to join the collective, but I just can’t commit the time predictably

So many damn Linux memes and supremacy posting.
On a more real note though, a bunch of the smaller communities I was part of on reddit, and nearly every specific gaming sub I was in aren't here, or at least aren't anywhere near as active.

Sense of humor is a very limited resource on here, I've found.

There was a period about a month ago where things were surprisingly thoughtful and well-considered for the most part. Then another wave of probably younger redditors came in and they brought with them all of the reactionary meme-ish way of talking. You can't make people not be how they are, but I was sad to see all of that awesomeness diluted.
But who knows, maybe given enough time, Lemmy and the fediverse will make an impact on these people and they'll see that it's better to live in a society (albeit a digital one) where people make an effort to listen and to respond thoughtfully as opposed to getting something out just to get it out.

Being really eager to defederate over relatively minor crap. What's the point of Lemmy then, man?

Lotta radical communities here who like to brigade posts on other, completely unrelated communities. Conversations were calmer with fewer slurs being thrown around a couple months ago.

They aren't sports fans. One of the things I do most often on Reddit is participate in various gamethreads in /r/nfl, /r/cfb, /r/hockey, /r/baseball, etc etc etc. There are gamethreads on Lemmy, mostly on the fanaticus.social instance. I'm the only one I've seen post in them, except for bots.
- I know its here, because I'm constantly blocking new sports communities that pop up in All.
- They aren't my kind of nerd either. All the communities for my hobbies are dead. The largest Magic: The Gathering communities go days without posts, the warhammer communities get maybe 1 paintjob post a week, and I haven't found anywhere to talk about how awesome the X-Men comics are right now.
  
  At least you've gotten a post from the community in the past week, it's been months since anybody posted anything in only battlebots community on lemmy. I know it's the off-season, but still...
  
  Yeah, the lack of MTG players is really sad.
- I post to my own instance where I have a single community about a single soccer club. No bots though (yet). lol

My only real complaint is that some of the groups I was in on reddit either aren't here, or are super small here. As far as the people go, maybe I've just been lucky but most folks have been pretty nice, and thus far I haven't really run into the extremist stuff some folks ahve mentioned.