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Investigating the Nord Stream Attack: All the Evidence Points To Kyiv

www.spiegel.de Investigating the Nord Stream Attack: All the Evidence Points To Kyiv

It's a spy thriller that has the potential to change the course of international politics: A year ago, a secret commando blew up the Nord Stream pipelines in the Baltic Sea. Since then, investigators have been searching for the perpetrators. The leads they have found are extremely politically sensit...

I am shocked! Shocked! Well actually not that shocked...

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Trying to blame their proxy state instead of the US to redirect blame
- yeah, I'm fairly confident Ukraine would not have been able to do this, especially without Amerika's (and probably Germany's) knowledge
  
  the attack happened in nordic waters, unless ukranian spec ops are managing to evade NATO and EU detection its more likely it was sanctioned by them, or given american support.
- Still somehow less insane than preemptively blaming Russia which is what Western media and their target audience jumped to
  
  Fair, though the "few dudes in a boat blew up the pipeline" is still quite ridiculous. Peak Western journalism lmao
- Yeah I've thought it was the US, or at least US sponsored/advised. The article says apparently the US knew about the attack in advance and told them not to do it, but doesn't give any sources for that that I could see.
  
  This is the narrative they spun after Hersh's leaks. They're quite throwing Ukraine under the bus.
  
  They pulled the same thing when Saddam went into Kuwait. They told him they wouldn't interfere if he went in, giving tacit support, then used it as an excuse to join in against him. Fuckheads. Whole thing could've been avoided.
  
  They haven't used Nordstream II to justify pulling the plug on Ukraine yet. But it's the yanks, so anything could happen if they would make a dollar from it. The only people they pretend to appease are, after all, gullible libs whose deepest wish is to believe the US is a beacon of wholemeal goodness.
  
  It's a bit like that friend at school who reassures you that you're in the mischief together, then turns away and let's you take the heat when it goes wrong as if they've never met you before.
  
  Until a whistleblower is Gary Webbed, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they've been allowed to blow the whistle because it doesn't make a difference to the US's reputation but it does give them a reason to 'betray' Ukraine. (I use the scare quotes because betrayal suggests the US was ever on the side of the Ukrainians.)
  
  Similar to orgs like Amnesty International highlighting western shit; it's useful to an extent but it doesn't change the overall power dynamics and it can all easily be manipulated by imperialists. If anything it just facilitates shifting support from one faction to another. Like Biden claiming to be different to Trump but doing almost exactly the same things.
America did it, not Ukraine. German NATO media cannot blame America because they are occupied and fully subservient. Historical revisionism strikes again

Edit: gif
Could this cause Germany and, consequently, NATO to invade Ukraine, since the destruction of this infrastructure was a direct attack on it?
- The article states that Germany stopping support for Ukraine would be out of the question. I can't see them doing anything even if it turns out it was directly order by the Ukrainian government.
- Plot twist: their destruction of Ukraine is already underway
- The only dog Germany's got in their collective hearts is poodle; they ain't doin shit about it
- Doubt that would ever happen, besides Ukraine is a NATO front already
- Cause? No, libs will probably say that Ukrainians we doing direct actions and stopping evvuuuulll ruzzian money laundering and corruption inside the germany government.
in the meantime, Germans on lemmy:
If they'd have done it they'd have never shut up about it.
- If they did it they would have never shut up about it.

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